None of These Things Moves Me

This morning at about 0130 I’m awake…my wife Emily was also awake and petting our puppy Brutus who ALWAYS has to be right near us at night. I’m lying there trying to go back to sleep but thoughts of my day from yesterday just keep roll through my head over and over and over again…Finally, I give up on getting back to sleep and still can’t so I get up finally at about 0230.

It’s so funny how things like this happen…you want up and think about the day before and think wow that was one messed up dream…and then it happens…you realize that it wasn’t really a dream and that everything you thought was part of a terrible nightmare is really just a repeat of what REALLY took place the day before…Then reality starts to set in…you start to question how in the world could this be possible. I mean this doesn’t happen to someone like me (right?). And then it hits you like a ton of bricks…This IS happening to someone like me! It’s at that point, that VERY minute where everything you have EVER believed your entire life is challenged. What do you do then? What choice do you make, if one at all? It is at that VERY millisecond that you have a choice…an extremely important choice. Do you decide to trust the Lord and His Word instead of how you feel or do you trust how your feeling and distrust EVERYTHING you have believed your entire life?

This was the position I found myself in this morning at 0230…I KNOW what’s the right answer, but am struggling immensely because my emotions are SCREAMING in my head… “It’s FINALLY happened…God has failed you…see I told you He would…”. So what do you do? Do you believe that resounding voice screaming in your head that God has failed you or do you chose to say within yourself…with EVERY fiber of you being…NO…I KNOW in whom I have believed and I KNOW that He and His Word are 100% true REGARDLESS of how I am feeling right now. I walk by FAITH and NOT by sight (what I see or how I feel).

Perhaps you are thinking that I am being mellow-dramatic…that I am trying to create some sort of poetic expression. Perhaps you are thinking that I am making this all up to prove some undefinable point?

I could ONLY wish…NO this is NOT some story that I’m creating in some new book that I am writing. Nope, this is the true “story” of something that I just went through and am still going through. Perhaps I may NEVER get through this situation until I’m on the other side with all the people that I hold dearest of all in my heart? I REALLY don’t know the answer too many of these questions.

However, one thing I DO KNOW…Is NONE of these things MOVES me. I REFUSE to allow myself to TAKE offense and walk away from the One Who got me where I am today.

Please notice that I said “TAKE” offense. What this literally means is that I have a choice…I could “take” offense and begin to think that everything I have believed for the last 35+ years of serving the One and True Living God was a lie, or I can, with EVERY fiber of my being, pull myself up spiritually by the hairs on my head if need be, and CHOOSE to not give up and not turn my back on everything that I don’t just believe…but that I KNOW are true. That is my ONLY choice! What will I do? What do I want to do? In my head, that screwed up voice is screaming at me to give up. Emotionally, I feel the extreme desire to lash out at God in anger, and ask Him why He did this or allowed this to happen to my mother.

Perhaps in some ways I would be totally justified in doing so? After all, this is the typical reaction that we humans have when tragedy strikes our lives right?

I have to honestly say…that this is the MOST critical time in my 35 + yours of walking in faith with the Lord that I have EVER experienced such a STRONG desire to give up…If I were to go with my emotions at the moment…I would TOTALLY turn my back on God & His Word!

But, I am here to tell you this day…that I CHOOSE to NOT lose heart to NOT lose faith…

I am reminded of a scene in the movie “Divergent”…the main character a female who has NEVER fit in her world her entire life! I, too, can TOTALLY relate this girl in the movie cuz I too am Divergent much like the character in the movie. Back to this scene that plays in my head…

When the girl is being tested by some of the worst fears that she has ever experienced in her imagination…because in the movie she is actually lying on a table much like in a doctor’s office, while this “test” of her will is taking place to see what she will do when faced with these fears. In the movie while she is going through this experience of terror…she digs down deep within herself and says: “…This is NOT real…” several times…and then she continues on her journey and makes it through. She does all of this in what appears to be a 15 – 20 minute exercise, but in reality it takes place in about 3 minutes. This experience shows this girl and the one testing her that she is a “Divergent” or someone who is not locked into or caged by the typical experiences that most humans have. In other words, she cannot be pigeon holed into fitting into one SPECIFIC group or society.

I feel much like this girl who realizes that she is Divergent or someone who is destined to go against the flow of society. In my case I am NOT referring to my being “above the law” or better than the rest. NO, in my life, much like this girl, I am one of those who, somehow and SOME way, has seemed to be able to rise above the circumstances of my life and trudge on despite how badly my emotions are trying to derail my progress.

Please understand…I am NOT claiming to be some Super-human, because I honestly don’t totally understand how this happens myself. I also do NOT claim this ability to be one of my OWN strength. No not at all. When I began to realize that this ability was on the inside of me, and was placed inside of me, so that I could NEVER claim any glory concerning it, it was then that I began to praise God for this Supernatural manifestation that He had in grained in my spiritual DNA if you will. I do NOT claim ANY credit WHATSOEVER regarding this ability to continue on in Him and His path for my life…when EVERY cell within me wants to go the opposite direction. All I can say is thank You Jesus because I KNOW without one once of doubt that this Supernatural Strength that is within me is a gift. It is a gift that I do NOT understand, but I am SSSOOO VERY blessed that He has placed this within me. At the time of this writing, 05.14.2015, I still do not really understand what or why He has put this within me. I also do not know if other have this same sort of experience that I have had.

These experiences are ones that have not just happened once or twice…NO! Praise God, these are experiences that I have noted in my life over and over and over again…and I am so humbled and so blessed that He would infuse this ability within me. As I said before, I take ABSOLUTELY no credit for it. I did NOT do anything to experience it. When I say this I am meaning that I was not doing something with the motive of experiencing this ability because I didn’t know it even existed until a few years ago when I started to understand that something was different about me and that it was not something that I had ANYTHING to do with it being there.

All I did was surrender my life and my will to His direction. I made a CHOICE to follow and obey Him and His Word and put Jesus and His Word first place, FINAL authority over EVERYTHING I did in my life. That’s NOT to say that I don’t make mistakes by ANY means…because I have and I do…much more than I wish to admit. Yet, in all of the screwed up things that I have done in my life, He has NEVER left me or walked away from me…even when He had EVERY reason known to man to do so. Still, He NEVER rejected or pushed me away. He was there with me trying to get me to wake up, repent and get back to following His lead through His Word.


Thank You Lord for NEVER giving up on me even when, in the past, that I gave up on You and walked away from You. Thank You for always being there. I will NEVER take that for granted! I am so blessed that You chose me to be one of Your many sons and daughters and that You birthed in me this ability to not allow my emotions to run me to the point that I ran off the spiritual road and stay off it! I have had a few times where I was flipped over in the ditches of life, but You came and turned me back right side up and pointed that direction in which You wanted me to go.

This was something that I just felt lead to share with you today. I don’t understand why or for whom this was for, but I KNOW deep inside that this was something that the Lord was directing me to share! –Gregg Huestis

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Beauty Out of Ashes To Be Re-released…

Good Morning to all my Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest & Linkin friends & family,

I just got off the phone with a company who is interested in publishing my book(s) into the mass media.

Since I have written 4 Christian books: When the Holy Spirit Reveals, Another Side of the Coin, Speak the Word Only and Beauty Out of Ashes (with my wife Emily) this publishing liaison suggested that we start with our most recent book: Beauty Out of Ashes. He felt that it would be easily marketed because it is a personal true story of how the Lord saved me from dying and also saved Emily Huestis & my marriage. So I am in need of your prayers regarding this.

Here is the other issue…in order to do this we would be looking at an investment of $5,000-$10,000 with the more realistic amount being $7,000. This has been our greatest hurdle from the get go…$$$. I had the opportunity a few years back to co-publish with Charisma House for about the same investment. The company the contacted me today is Trafford Publishing. I am not sure what or how to go about this new adventure?

Generally, I’m not one to ask for financial support/investors…that being said if someone knows of someone who would be willing to support this effort…I would make sure that they received copies of the book(s)…I would be eternally grateful for any assistance provided. I know that @Stryper had a woman who believed in Strypers music and backed them financially which helped to launch their music career. That’s something that our ministry as far as the books goes could definately use. Please keep us in your prayers and if you have any ideas or if the Lord lays it on your heart to support this effort please let us know. You can email me too at: or

Thanks so much for taking the time to read this.

Lord bless you all,

Gregg & Emily Huestis

PS: For all who are who feel led by the Lord to support this effort with a $30 or more donation…You will receive a personalized signed copy of Beauty Out of Ashes: (The True Story of How God Healed Our Marriage and How Gregg Miraculously Cheated Death) and will receive a honorable mention in the re-released version of the book once it has been re-published with the new publishing company (You will get 1 signed copy of the current version NOW) and the honorable mention ONCE the new edition is released. Please contact us for more information!

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Copeland Ministries “Partners” With Pope Francis?

Kenneth Copeland Ministries “Partners” With Pope Francis… Recently I have been hearing some things about a video that posted where Pope Francis greeted Copeland Ministries…this video was very disturbing and chilling for me to watch…I have often seen the Copeland’s teaching being twisted and misunderstood etc…but with this recent information that has been openly displayed by the Copeland’s themselves…I felt that I had to address this issue publicly. Below is the comment that I made on the Copeland’s website where they addressed their meeting with Pope Francis at least in part. I believe they need to give a more definitive response to my comment and others…sooner, rather than later…Please feel free to add your thoughts and comments regarding this issue below! I have this posted on my ministry Facebook Page and I had some additional comments from myself and another person…


Brother Kenneth Copeland Ministries, I have listened to your teaching for 30 + years and I am very confused as to why you would “unite” with this Pope… I don’t know the mans heart for sure, but his actions regarding the gay agenda lately says a lot to me…I’m not saying that the Lord doesn’t love those who are gay, but He also doesn’t want them to stay in this perversion either…that is my biggest concern for you and your ministry.  I wrote in my book: Another Side of the Coin about Word of Faith teaching that Hanegraaff had misinterpreted your teaching and many others, but in light of this recent revelation it makes you & your ministry to be in a negative light. I’m not saying that is the case but I can see why some would interpret it as such. I hope that you took the time to read my book that I sent you. I know your received it because Gloria wrote me a reply saying that it was received.  I didn’t write it to defend any one that was addressed in it but rather to support the ministry and teachings that I have believed and taught for almost 40 yrs now: prosperity in every area of life, divine healing, restoration, deliverance from demonic oppression… I would ask that you respond to my post and others and PLEASE clarify if you would why you have met with the Pope…I pray that it not for “global unity” because that is a concept that is strictly forbidden by the Word of God…unity is to be Unity in and by the Spirit of the Living God NOT the spirit of the world and worldly ideas and actions…ie. the gay agenda etc. PLEASE consider what I and others have had to say. I am not against you in any way. Your ministry has taught me so much about Trusting the Integrity of the Word of God and to live my entire life based ONLY on what does the Word of God say about this or that! So please understand that I am not attacking you in any way…I’m just questioning this recent open admission of acceptance of the Pope Francis and I am asking that you take the time to clarify this recent admission on the part of your ministry. I believe you owe this to those who have followed and supported your ministry as many here clearly have…Gregg Huestis,


I truly hope and pray that Ken Kenneth Copeland Ministries will respond to this post on there website…in their defense they do have a brief statement that says they will address this issue further at a future date. I’m just hoping and praying that it is sooner rather than later because this IS something that needs to be addressed seeing as his ministry has made a point to display it openly on their own website etc. Blessed To Be A Blessing Ministries With your beautiful Spirit-Now is the time to get in the Word & see what it says about end time matters. Oh, Sonny Bardin I am fully aware of what the Bible says about the end times. I am giving him & his ministry the benefit of the doubt…nothing more, nothing less. I don’t believe in being some self-righteous BUTT head and attacking/opposing someone & their ministry without them having the chance to at least respond…If I made certain statements like he has made I would want to be given the opportunity to at least attempt to clarify my statement. I do NOT agree with his or any ministry “partnering” [I hate this new PC buzz word] with this Pope…I don’t trust ANYONE who supports this demonic gay agenda…I also accepted Christ as Lord/Savior and was filled with the Holy Spirit with speaking in tongues in a Charismatic Catholic prayer group (1 Jan 1979) so I am not opposed to the born-again Catholics in ANY way. I have several VERY close friends who are born-again Catholics and I know their hearts even though we don’t agree on the idea of staying with the Catholic church. Most of them are staying to reach others who are not yet born-again.


I have always had GREAT respect for James Robison…but I am  troubled by this interview…NOT that I am against the unity of the Spirit (the Holy Spirit)…but I am MAJORLY opposed to the unity of the world…ie. One World Religion etc.  

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A&E Bowes To $$$

Love it…A&E blinks and cries UNCLE!

This is EXACTLY what they should have done for being SSSOOO stupid to get themselves in the middle of this issue. Phil said what he said…that has ABSOLUTELY NO baring upon the show etc. They should have kept their libtard, PC butts out of the political areana! The bottom line is this…$$$$!

These clowns thought that the cast of Duck Dynasty were a bunch of low life REDNECKS who they could push around…I praise God that all of us have a little bit of inner REDNECK and stood up to these clowns to told them to SIT DOWN, SHUT UP and keep themselves out of Phils Biz… #BRAVO

@A&E DESERVES to be embarrassed…Why?…Because they put their libtard, PC, noses into something they had NO BIZ getting involved it…LOVE IT…Just shows that good DOES triumph over evil…and the whole deceived world is not running around kissing the butts of the gay agenda! This was the BEST CHRISTmas present EVER!

Love this……/duck…/2013/12/27/id/544053…

Petition for ‘Duck Dynasty’ Star’s Return Hits Quarter Million Goal

Here’s one for you @A&E…God - 2, A&E - 0. You last with .[1][3][1]{comment635976056461418_5420806}.[0].{right}.[0].{left}.[0].[0].[0][3].[0].[1]”>Duane “Dog” Chapman and Duck Dynasty…

In ALL honesty…

I do NOT hate people who are gay or are liberals, Ds etc.

I just can’t stand it when the devil runs rough shooed over ALL that is right, holy and pure!

God & His Word mean EVERYTHING to me. I would obey God’s Word even if there was not ANY reward OR punishment when we die!

I have been a follower of CHRIST since 1 Jan. 1979…I have not always been the best Christian or example of Christ…BUT without Him I a NOTHING.

I praise & thank Him for NEVER giving up on me…even when I SURELY deserved that to happen to me. I wish & pray that ALL would experience God’s Love and His Word…NO MATTER where you might me spiritually…He will accept ALL of us: gay, straight etc. and He will change us into the image (likeness) of Jesus Christ! He was, is and ALWAYS will be our example…a man who was, is and always will be .[1][3][1]{comment635976056461418_5420876}.[0].{right}.[0].{left}.[0].[0].[0][3].[0].[3].[0].[1]”>#God yet He lived his life on this earth as a man with God living on the inside of Him…NOT that He EVER stopped being God (That NEVER changed)…but He walked on this earth, lived His 33 yrs and NEVER called upon His God-ship (for the lack of a better word).

He defeated satan, SIN and evil as a human, God-man without having ANY advantages over you & I except that He had NEVER sinned and NEVER did. He made the Way for ALL of us (gay, straight etc) to come to Him and be accept RIGHT where we are NOW.[1][3][1]{comment635976056461418_5420876}.[0].{right}.[0].{left}.[0].[0].[0][3].[0].[3].[0].[3]”>#JUST_AS_WE_ARE and He never has left us or forsaken us…even when we should have been kicked to the curb!

The above statement is my heart…it is truly exactly how I feel…aside from all of the other comments the comment above is me heart in its truest sense.

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Our DynaMaxx Story

We have a confession to make…

Emily & I have been struggling for YEARS with being able to sleep, feel rested when we awake, as well as, needing to be alert & focused for our day. We have had to “be slaves” of coffee & energy drinks to give us a boost, and if we were REALLY honest with ourselves these were only helping to some extent but were not making us feel good and helping us to not feel moody etc. We had been feeling trapped in a viscous cycle, kind of like a hamster in the wheel of insanity…you know what we mean…Doing the same things OVER & OVER AGAIN expecting some new MIRACULOUS result, that NEVER seemed to come. (I’m using all caps for emphasis because I cannot add bold/colored letters on a site like this. So please excuse me if I appear to be “yelling” in this post).

Emily & I are both nurses, and in nursing you HAVE TO BE alert, oriented and focused in order to do the best possible job we can. The lives of our clients are (pretty much) in our hands which is an AWESOME privilege and responsibility.

Back to our confession…we have been feeling like we were NOT able to properly give 100% of our time, attention and focus to our client’s, our jobs and to be very blunt…OUR LIFE…

That was the case for us until recently…We were invited to one of our closest friends house about 2 wks ago…and that all changed! Thanks to Angie & Lonnie Walston, we were introduced to something that has totally changed our ability to get a restful night’s sleep and also be able to get up in the morning and feel energized, not feel moody and be focused to properly tackle our day.

I’m not going to bore you will a bunch of facts and figures…like some late night infomercial…but if you have been feeling much like we were and are interested in finding out more about what we were introduced to please contact us. Many of you have our cell phone numbers & email address so give us a call, txt or email or FB message and we will tell you more!

You guys are our friends and this post is NOT some ploy to bleed anyone dry financially or ANYTHING like that. We have been introduced to something that has literally changed our lives and we want others to be able to experience the same things that we have.

We are having a get together with some of our local friends this Thursday at 7 pm (we have never had an open house and should have done so years ago). We thought that we would also share further about the change we have experienced that has transformed our lives. If you’re living in the Denver/Northern Colorado area give us a shout and come by.
Gregg & Emily Huestis
#Change #Feeling Great #Mentally Refreshed

For more information please visit our website:


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A Christmas Message By: Dale Thompson

I went Christmas shopping the other day. I went during the day to avoid the traffic and all of the other busy shoppers who would emerge upon the stores and malls. I barely beat the rush. It occurred to me while I sat at Steak n’ Shake a popular burger joint that the traffic was becoming thicker outside. I could see this through the window of the booth where I was sitting.

Yes this is the season that we celebrate the birth of Jesus. But do all of these people who hurry to finish up their shopping really know what this person Jesus came to do, what He did and what He is still doing today in the lives of everyone? My conclusion is, I do not believe they do understand. If people did understand anything past the gifts, presents, decorating of trees and homes maybe everyone would be just a little more jolly and caring toward the fellow man.

The Bible says Matt. 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

When Jesus was born, they called Him Emmanuel, which means God with us. This was the sign to all further generations. What was the sign what did it mean? After Jesus became of age He himself declared that He came not to bring peace but to bring a sword. Why would He say such a thing? I thought Jesus was a non-violent man, the Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world. If we will open our hearts and minds to the Spirit of God, we will understand what He was saying is that He came to destroy the WORKS of the devil. “To save us from the law of sin and death.” He did not come to bring a literal sword too severe the wicked. He was bringing war to the inner man. It is not by His birth as a babe in a manger that makes the difference in your life. It is the King the Lion of the Tribe of Judah who with His sword cuts away all of the illusions of life. The illusions of life are your ego, your false identity (flesh and blood). Peace is taken from you for you live in a false peace.

Let me explain� people believe they find peace and comfort in material things, such as houses, lands, cars, having their credit cards paid off. None of this can bring peace to your soul. To truly live the life of peace one must have their natural peace removed by an act of violent shaking. God does the shaking. When a person is in a lethargic state, they need a good shaking to wake them from sleep.

When the Lord enters your life riding upon His white horse, do not think for a minute that you will not be rattled to your very core. He wields His sword of truth and cuts away everything that does not belong to Him in your life. The only thing that will remain in that temple is Christ Himself.

Where does this leave you? Once ALL is removed, discarded and burned you will find yourself in the heart of the Father in true peace and comfort. This type of peace cannot be taken from you for you have entered God’s rest.

I am sure there is a misconception about the way I live. People know I make CD’s through Bride and we travel around the world yet know one really knows that I am poor. I do not have an expensive automobile nor live in a mansion. I do not have maids or servants. What I do have is the same as most people living on the income that I make which is very little. Yet, God brings me peace for He provides my needs and the needs of my family according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Things I see on t.v do not move me. when they yell that the U.S. is in a recession and things look grim. Why is that? It is because the love of God, which passes ALL understanding, has brought me to a place of rest. I have balance in my life and I am settled because of who lives in me.

Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil and to seek and save that which WAS lost. Notice the word “WAS” meaning that He was completely fulfilling His calling. How is this possible? “If God be for us who can be against us?”

God is ever present with us, always, He proclaimed that He would “never leave us nor forsake us He will be with us until the ends of the world”. Nothing can separate us from Him? Can sin? The Bible tells me that God is with us and that “tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

He is either Emmanuel “God with us” or He is not. I tend to believe the Bible. God does not separate Himself from us. We, through guilt and shame of our iniquities separate ourselves from Him. When Adam and Eve ate from the tree of good and evil it was not God who separated Himself from them. They chose to hide from God. It was God who came calling to them. But because Adam believed God was angry it was his own condemnation, which drove Him out from the presence of God.

If anything during this time of year, we need to be reconciled back to God. We need to draw closer to Him and He instantly is closer to us. We must forgive as He has unconditionally forgiven and then embrace His love toward us.

This Holiday season does not have to be one where we are distant from the truth. We do not have to become overwhelmed by our circumstances. We can however reach out to Father God and He will raise us up above all our troubles.

God is united with man and is dwelling with man every day. He is not out on some distant planet where he cannot hear us. Psa 86:13 For great [is] thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.

From the lowest pit, in darkness, in the deeps of despair God has broken through to deliver us. Psa 116:8 For thou hast delivered my soul from death, mine eyes from tears, [and] my feet from falling.

The Bible declares that Jesus came “to save His people from their sins.” I believe He has done that. There is something we must do in order to accept that. We must come to the knowledge of the Lord and stop placing limitations upon Him to save. Jesus has “delivered us from the wrath to come.” God’s ways are higher than man’s ways. Num 23:19 God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

How are we to simple accept that? Exod. 14:13 says “Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD, 2 Chr. 20:17 “Ye shall not [need] to fight in this [battle]: set yourselves, stand ye [still], and see the salvation of the LORD with you”

Notice is basically says “STOP DOING and START STANDING STILL!” When you do this we have a promise to ALL mankind Isa. 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

My question is to you� how are you going to escape the LOVE of GOD, which knows no barriers? Psa. 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou [art] there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou [art there].

No matter where we go, “God who IS love” is there. “Hell [is] naked before him, and destruction hath no covering.” There is no place out of the sight of the Father.

Listen He is NOT angry with you! He wants to love you and have you close to Him. This season is not about the material things, it is ALL about the Spiritual reality of being reconciled to your heavenly Father and walking in the peace that only the Holy Spirit can bring. Jesus made this possible when He came into the world, lived, died, rose from the grave and ascended on high leading captivity captive. The hearts of the children of men are in plain sight for God to view.

I can truly identify with Jonah when he said “I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, [and] thou heardest my voice.” I know the power of God to save. Who can resist His will? If one person can resist God then doesn’t that make that person’s stubbornness more powerful than the love of God?

Be encouraged and take refuge and trust in God who is the Savior of ALL men, specially of those that believe.

Jesus came to be Savior of the world. He is the Savior of the world. He continues and remains to this day indeed the Christ, the Savior of the world. (John 4:42)

Dale Thompson

[This message from Dale Thompson, lead singer of the Awesome Christian Rock Band, Bride was published as a guest blogger by permission from the author].

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Another Side of the Coin


Few have seen the books that have responded directly to Hank Hanegraaff’s landmark book, Christianity in Crisis. Hanegraaff’s book, according to him, exposes the Word-Faith Movement as a “cult” by quoting statements by its major leaders. Yet, many of the accused Word-Faith leaders have kept to an understandable policy to neither read nor respond to criticism. Nonetheless, many Word-Faith adherents have wanted someone to contend with Hanegraaff for what they believe to be out-of-context quotes, strawman arguments, false allegations, and bias theology.

One person attempted to answer that call. In 1994, Michael Bruno wrote Christianity in Power, responding to Hanegraaff using love, Scripture, and reason. We are thankful to God for Reverend Bruno’s book, as it has restored the faith of millions of Christians. Though we laude Bruno’s courage in responding to the Bible Answer Man, and his efforts were certainly blessed by God, Bruno’s book did not address many of Hanegraaff’s interpretations that make the faith teachers appear to be guilty of teaching heretical doctrine.

However, God has raised another author to take up where Bruno has left off. Gregg Huestis in his excellent book, Another Side of the Coin, not only answers Hanegraaff’s literary investigation with scripture and reason, but he also takes the quotes that Hanegraaff used and places them within their contextual setting. By doing this, Huestis demonstrates to his readers that Hanegraaff appears to have put words into the mouths of the faith teachers that were not originally there.

Huestis also uses quotations by faith teachers that Hanegraaff did not cite since they would have proven counter-productive in painting them as “cultic” and “heretical.” Many adherents to the Faith Movement believe that Hanegraaff has misinterpreted this teaching but cannot afford to purchase all of the books and tapes to investigate their position. Huestis, however, provides them with the necessary resource for this endeavor.

Huestis begins his thesis by citing a number of apologists, those in the same field as Hanegraaff, who disagree with how he has handled the Faith Movement. Afterwards, Huestis covers such subjects as the Force of Faith, the Formula of Faith, the Faith of God, the alleged deification of man, the alleged demotion of God, the Jesus-Died-Spiritually (JDS) doctrine, and other subjects of interest. You will find Huestis’ handling of these controversial subjects done with care and precision?

If you have been questioning the genuineness of Hanegraaff’s work, but have been waiting for someone to provide the needed answers, then your prayers have been answered in the form of Another Side of the Coin. You will find this to be a great resource for maintaining your faith as well as providing an accurate response to Hanegraaff’s allegations.

Pastor Troy J. Edwards

Victorious Word Christian Fellowship

Table of Contents

A Personal Introduction From the Author   ix



Hanegraaff’s Cast of Characters & Beyond




The “Force” of Faith




The Formula of Faith




The Faith of God




The Hebrews Hall of Fame




Who’s Deifying Man?




How Would Someone Demote God?




Who Has Authority To Demote Christ?




Spiritual Death And The Cross




He Who Knew No Sin Become Sin!




The Firstborn From Among The Dead!




Who’s “Conforming” To Culture?




P.T.L.—Pass The Lute?




A Covenant Is A Biblical Contract!




Sickness—Suffering, Symptoms; Satan And





Some Closing Remarks


End Notes  241

A Personal Introduction From The Author

This book has not been written as an attempt to say, “We are right and they are wrong!” Rather, this is a prayerful effort at giving a proper answer to the critics of the Word of Faith. It is the desire of my heart that this writing be a tool to bring about restoration between both sides of this controversial debate.

This book was birthed within my spirit because I have encountered many believers caught up in confusion concerning the Faith message. Jesus said, “You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” The purpose of truth is not to bring about confusion and disunity. As hard as it may be, we will have to get our doctrines and misunderstandings out of the way or we will never experience the freedom that Jesus referred to in this verse. Therefore, we will end up not really understanding the truth so that we can be made free.

In Another Side of the Coin, I intend to examine several portions of Hank Hanegraaff’s 1993 book, Christianity in Crisis, and pay particular attention to quotations of the various Faith teachers used by Hanegraaff. However, I also plan to use other quotations, by these same people, not cited by Hanegraaff, in order to show the true meaning behind the message of most of today’s Faith teaching.

Moreover, I am completely aware that many of the Faith teachers have a long standing policy by which they have chosen not to read, listen or respond to any public opinion for or against them and their teaching. I respect their decision and understand their reasons for choosing not to respond. If I had as much press as they have had, I probably would respond in kind. Nevertheless, the Lord has given me a clear directive to respond to and properly clarify various controversial teachings of the Word of Faith.

I further realize that this book may not “convert” those who are already opposed to the teachings of the Word of Faith. But I know that it will be an important source of help to many who are still unsure of their motives and teaching. I, too, was unsure until I began carefully listening to and researching various statements of the Faith teachers over the last 17 years, comparing them with the Word of God. I do not agree with every word taught by the Faith Teachers. However, I disagree more so with methods of those attempting to correct them.

I can say from my own personal experience with those who oppose the message of faith, that in those times of uncertainty I wished that I had had a book to assist me like Another Side of the Coin. My motivation is not to attack or slander Hanegraaff, but rather to clearly and openly show various misinterpretations so that one can properly decide for himself.

I pray that those who read Another Side of the Coin will take that which I have written, plus Mr. Hanegraaff’s writing, and compare both in the light of the Word of God. I do not ask that anyone should read this book and base their beliefs solely upon what I have written. More than anything, I desire that the reader will thoroughly examine both sides of this debate to see how they line up with God’s Word, and therefore form their own conclusion.

For so many thousands of years, people have based their whole belief system on what someone else has said or written, without taking the time to research the subject(s) in question for themselves.

The time has come for the Body of Christ to examine both sides of this coin, in order that the whole picture may come into focus.

—Gregg N. Huestis

Blessed To Be A Blessing Ministries 




            Before we begin to address Mr. Hanegraaff’s book, I wish to make one thing poignantly clear—it has never been my intention to attack or defame Hanegraaff in any way. I simply want to accurately present his interpretation of the Word of Faith teaching found in Christianity in Crisis. It is important that one understands his line of logic in context. Many advocates of this book have felt I should have been more stringent in opposing Hanegraaff’s remarks. Instead, I felt led of the Lord to be more polite and hospitable. That being said let us look into Christianity in Crisis.

Hank Hanegraaff opens his literary exposition on the Word of Faith with a reasonably detailed exposé of the Faith teachers who he intends to openly expose for promoting what he believes to be unorthodox doctrine. I was shocked by his manner of writing, in which he called them heretics and denounced their teachings as cultic:

“Twisted text, make-believe miracles, and counterfeit Christs are common denominators of the Faith movement’s cast of Characters.”1

The first official chapter, “the Cast of Characters,” opens with his interpretation of the origin and influence of each Faith teacher addressed in his book. Sadly, his language is cutting, much like that of a bullet. He proceeds by denouncing many of their private and personal spiritual experiences. Furthermore, he denounces many of them as frauds and thieves, claiming they televise “make-believe miracles”2 and bilk the unsuspecting out of millions of dollars annually.

For example, Hanegraaff opposes the teaching of John Avanzini, who is considered a teacher of Biblical economics. In referring to Avanzini, he makes these unflattering comments:

“John Avanzini is billed by his Faith peers as a recognized authority on biblical economics. The truth, however, is that he is an authority at separating poor people from their money…Avanzini runs the gamut from teaching people how to get their hands on the ‘wealth of the wicked’ to what might best be described as his ‘hundredfold hoax.’”3

He continues by writing a few additional unflattering remarks about a man of God who has been a powerful influence in my own life and ministry—Dr. Morris Cerullo.

“He purports to have first met God at the age of eight. Since then his life has been one remarkable experience after another…On another occasion, Cerullo claimed God was directing him to say, ‘Would you surrender your pocketbooks unto Me, saith God, and let Me be the Lord of your pocketbooks.’”4

I have been teaching the hundredfold return principle for several years hence; I understand this principle in great detail. I can assure you the Bible clearly affirms this teaching. Consequently, I can write with total confidence that the teaching of Dr. John Avanzini, regard this tenet, is in fact Scripturally sound. I have studied under his ministry since 1983, when I first met him in Chicago, IL at the Morris Cerullo Chicago Partners Seminar. I have examined Avanzini’s teachings thoroughly and know them to be Biblically sound.

Concerning Morris Cerullo, I can say from personal experience with his ministry that he is a man of God of the finest quality that I have ever known. I have been blessed to meet Cerullo a number of times in person. I also worked for him for a short time in 1986 at Morris Cerullo World Evangelism. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the ministry of Morris Cerullo is not only doctrinally sound, but also financially sound. As for the other Faith teachers addressed in Hanegraaff’s book, I haven’t met them apart from their books, cassettes and videos. Still, I have examined their teachings thoroughly and have never found anything heretical in nature. I don’t agree with all that they do or say, but I know their teachings to be Biblically unassailable. I must confess that I have seen some disturbing methods of fundraising by TV preachers that concerns me, but in recent years such emotional appeals are quickly fading away.

What Division?

“I have become both weary and wary of those who use the perversions of the Faith movement to drive a wedge between charismatic and noncharismatic Christians. Frankly, this is both counterproductive and divisive, for the Faith movement is not charismatic; it is cultic.”5

Mr. Hanegraaff claims that the Faith teachers are promoting division between Charismatic and non-Charismatic believers. On the other hand, it was Hanegraaff who has written a book with a “flare of tabloid journalism,” rather than Copeland, Hagin or Capps—we will address this issue in depth later in this chapter. Many advocates of the Word of Faith believe, as we will see later, that he has set his heart on tearing down the reputation and ministry of many great men and women of God within the Faith Movement. Hanegraaff’s actions, like the ones previously mentioned, could be viewed as counterproductive and divisive. I find no credible evidence to infer that the Word of Faith teachers are causing division between Charismatic and non-Charismatic believers. In addition, Hanegraaff has also publicly denounced the teachers of the Word of Faith as cult leaders, and as teaching cultic doctrine. Rating them with the likes of the Mormons, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and the Christian Scientists.6

Further, many Christians believe Hanegraaff does not seem to show a spirit of love toward those mentioned in his book. This is a direct violation of what Jesus said to do with our enemies, Matthew 5:44: “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” I ask the reader to continue and make that decision for one’s own self. On the other hand, most of the Faith teachers continue to love Hanegraaff and pray for him, without demeaning, slanderous remarks against him or his ministry. The major portion of the Word of Faith teachers believe he is a fellow believer and would consent to discussions with him if they felt these issues would be resolved. However, based on his previous actions this doesn’t appear to be likely (see quotes from Charisma).

It is seems obvious, from Christianity in Crisis, that Hanegraaff’s intentions for writing were not primarily for the restoration of these servants of God. According to the Word of God, the Biblical prerequisite for confrontation is always restoration of those in error. Love must always be the motivation for confrontation. When one confronts another out of love, restoration, peace, and spiritual growth will, for the most part, be the result. However, when one confronts another with improper motives, anger, or strife; then division will nearly always be the end result (See Proverbs 30:33c). I will not assume to understand Hanegraaff’s intentions, but can understand why many have questioned his motivation.

Integrity Questioned In Charisma

            I’m an avid reader of Charisma magazine, and one day I purchased their May 1995 issue where much to my amazement, I found an article titled, “Does the Church Need Heresy Hunters?” The content of this article was so stunning I felt the need to save it for use in this book.

Charisma talked with people on both sides of this controversy to determine whether there is any hope of resolving it. What we discovered: Many Christian leaders, including some who represent cult-watching organizations, think Hanegraaff is going too far. ‘The people I talk to don’t appreciate the way Hank handles the Word-Faith movement’, says Robert Bowman, a former CRI researcher who now works with the Atlanta Christian Apologetics Project. ‘I refuse to put [Word-Faith churches] in the cult category. It’s ridiculous [for Hanegraaff] to say that all these people are insincere hucksters.’”7

“Ron Enroth, a cult watcher and author of the book Churches That Abuse (Zondervan), takes exception to Hanegraaff’s strident tone. ‘Christianity in Crisis is an important book, but I think Hanegraaff has gone too far in some of his statements,’ Enroth says. ‘I consider [Word-Faith] people my brothers and sisters in Christ, so it is difficult for me to put them in the same category as cultists.’”8

“The Group for CRI Accountability, organized last year, includes some 30 former CRI staff members who are publicly demanding Hanegraaff’s resignation. They say Hanegraaff does not have the theological training, the communication skills or the ethical standards to lead CRI.”9

Having read the previous three excerpts from Charisma magazine, it is easy to see that Hanegraaff’s views and methods are particularly questionable. It is also clear that his own ministry peers have questions about his ability to confront other members of the Body of Christ in the Biblical manner. Again, I ask the reader to consider these quotations and come to their own conclusion. These questions have raised a red flag in the minds of many concerning Hanegraaff’s motivation, as well as his qualification as a cult-researcher. It also seems hard for one trust his allegations against the Faith teachers when his ministry peers are unable to trust him?

Problems With Accountability?

“His most vocal critics are former CRI staff members including one who sued him 14 months ago. Brad Sparks says he filed his lawsuit after Hanegraaff refused to agree to Christian arbitration. Sparks claims he was wrongfully terminated from CRI because he spoke out against ethics violations at the ministry. He alleges, among other things, that Hanegraaff receives an ‘excessive six-figure annual income’…Sparks believes there is ‘a serious lack of accountability’ at CRI, especially since 1993 when CRI withdrew from the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability…Sparks alleges that CRI pulled out of ECFA so the ministry wouldn’t have to comply with an ECFA conflict of interest clause, which states that ministry personnel cannot receive royalties from sales of books that are used for fund-raising purposes.”10

“The Group for CRI Accountability…also want to know why Hanegraaff lives in a $731,000 house in Coto de Caza, an exclusive, gated community in Orange County, Calif.”11

I cannot prove whether or not these claims against Hanegraaff are true. Still, the fact that they have been raised publicly causes many to question the Bible Answer Man’s integrity and accountability. Concerning his six figure salary and $731,000 house, one could have assumed that Charisma had confused Hanegraaff with Dr. Frederick K.C. Price, one of the Faith teachers who Hanegraaff berated for driving a Rolls Royce. If one didn’t know, one could have thought that Hanegraaff is now a prosperity preacher? As to whether or not Hanegraaff should be prosperous, there is nothing wrong with him making a large salary and living in an exclusive area of Southern California. Every Christian worker is worthy of his wage. However, many see a problem when he accuses others of being in it for the money when he too could be accused of a lifestyle similar to those of the Word of Faith. Many find his accusations hypocritical when considering his own financial status.

Furthermore, it is interesting that when Brad Sparks, a former CRI staff member, went to him with Christian arbitration, Mr. Hanegraaff refused. His actions with Sparks appear to show why he hasn’t initiated Christian mediation with the members of the Word of Faith. This further leads one to believe that even if Christian mediation were attempted—Hanegraaff would still carry on opposing the Faith teachers? Hence, many feel he does not appear to desire restoration, but rather the destruction of the reputation of those who oppose his methods?

Christ’s Solider or Assassin?

“James Spenser, a former Mormon who has written several books on how to share Christ with members of cults, says he’s been on the receiving end of that hateful attitude. He thinks cult-watchers like Hanegraaff actually are involved in character assassination. In a book published in 1993, Heresy Hunters: Character Assassination in the Church (Huntington House), Spencer says cult watchers are too zealous. ‘They are on a high and holy crusade to rid the church of heresy,’ he says. ‘But modern apologists are too reckless—they’re doing their work by fax machine, and they’re not being careful about what they say and write.’”12

According to the previous article, Hanegraaff has committed character assassination. Charisma points out that his methods seem to have little love or concern for correction of error. For this reason, his technique, for the most part, has proved to be fruitless. Godly correction in love bares fruit and the restoration of our brother and sister in Christ. Charisma maintains that Hanegraaff’s methods of correction are merely driving the assumed erroneous person away into alienation, instead of embracing them into restoration.

In addition, in the August 1993 issue of Charisma, Stephen Strang had some important comments to make about Hanegraaff’s assessment of the Faith movement.

“I’ve prayed and worshipped side by side with many of these folks in the Faith movement, and Hanegraaff’s depiction of them as heretics flies in the face of what I’ve seen with my own eyes…Everyone I know in the Faith movement proclaims Jesus Christ as Lord and would die for the fundamentals of the faith listed in the Apostles’ Creed or the Nicene Creed. (At Rhema, for example, they affirm the 16 ‘fundamental truths’ of the Assemblies of God). Interestingly Strang suggests several points to evaluate charges of heresy, among which are:

Is the point of the criticism correction or restoration? Or is it to sell books and attract listeners and donors?

Has the critic tried to determine what the speaker meant? Or is he quick to at tribute beliefs to a fellow Christian that he may not even hold. Has the critic made an effort to confront fellow Christians in love? Or has he alienated his brother with a derisive tone and caustic charges of heresy, blasphemy, scam and worse.

Has the critic given his errant brother ample opportunity to change? Or is he in a rush to nail his victim.”13

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When The Holy Spirit Reveals…

 A Personal Introduction From The Author

            For almost ten years I have dreamed about putting this book into the hands of God’s people. When the Lord instructed me to write, immediately I attempted to start working on my newly given directive. However, all of my efforts were as filthy rags. Every word that I wrote was lifeless. I even questioned the Lord concerning His instructions about writing a book, because the Anointing was absent.

Then, in September 1995, the Lord birthed within my heart a Rhema word, a word of revelation, which I had never received before during my previous attempts at writing. At once, the words I wrote were not coming from my head, nor were they mere ideas. These words were coming from within my spirit. The Holy Spirit came upon me in an awesome, personal manifestation, with the sole purpose of guiding me as I wrote. He gave me insights into controversial issues within the Body of Christ, and guided me to Scriptures that would impart answers to God’s people.

When I asked the Lord why I could not seem to write in previous years, He gave me some verses of Scripture:

(John 8:31b&32) “…If you abide in My word [hold fast to My teachings and live in accordance with them], you are truly My disciples. And you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free.”

He explained that it was not the “Truth” of His instructions that were going to set me free, but rather my knowing (understanding) of the truth; which would set me free to write under His anointed guidance. I can say Jesus loves me, but until I experience the love of Christ, I will never truly begin to know His love in an intimate, personal way. There are two conditions stated in this passage of Scripture which will guide us into experiencing this kind of freedom and revelation.

1. We must be His disciples: (be disciplined ones).

2. We must know the Truth [Truth alone won’t set us free but the Truth that we know will.]

What Is Our Input Into Knowing The Truth?

(John 14:16;26) “And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another (Comforter, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, and Standby), that He may remain with you forever…But the Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, Standby), the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send…He will teach you all things….”

The first condition is that we must make a 100% commitment to being a disciple of Jesus. The next condition is that we rely totally upon the Holy Spirit to guide us and teach us all things. However, He will not do His part in us if we never invite Him to do so. He is a gentleman, and will not go where He is not welcomed or acknowledged. Surrender to God’s Spirit is the key. Dear Saint of God, when you begin to live these two truths; then you too will experience what happens…When the Holy Spirit Reveals!

Gregg N. Huestis

Blessed To Be A Blessing Ministries




(Learning the Power within Our Words)

            Ever since I gave my life to Christ on 1 January 1979, I have witnessed a sometimes-hostile debate surrounding the power of words. Some believe that words are very powerful and therefore should be chosen carefully. Still others believe that our words have little or no effect upon the outcome of our goals in life. Hence, this subject has always been of great interest to me, but also a source of confusion. Then I received a revelation! “Do some Bible research and learn what’s in a word?” I desired to know what God’s Word says about words. I hoped that this would alleviate my perplexity. I thank the Lord that I was obedient to His Voice.

In chapter one I would like to share with you the results of my research from God’s Word in faith that it will help clear up any misunderstandings you may have experienced concerning what’s in a word.

Before we go further, I want to define what is meant by the question, “What’s in a word?” A word is not simply one word that you or I speak in a day. A word, (my word), is the whole course of words that I speak each and every day. In this sense, we can call a word our daily testimony. Who am I praising the most? Am I praising the devil for his attacks on my life or am I praising God for His strength that has made me more than an conqueror even in the face of defeat? Whatever we glorify the most in our daily conversation will be the very thing that controls our thoughts and actions. On that account, what is in a word?

(Proverbs 18:20,21) A man’s [moral] self shall be filled with the fruit of his mouth; and with the consequence of his words he must be satisfied [whether good or evil]. Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and they who indulge in it shall eat the fruit of it [for death or life].

According t0 Proverbs chapter eighteen in the Amplified Bible, “we will be filled by the fruit of our mouths; and by the consequence of our words we must be satisfied.” This says that if I do not want to be filled and satisfied with evil consequences, then I must pay attention to the words that I speak. Also, this tells me that I am the one who has control over my words, and hence control over the kind of fruit that my words will produce. We are responsible for the words we speak not God or the devil. God our Father has given us His Word to help us control our thinking and henceforth our speaking. We are not expected to be the ones to do it all alone. He has given these tools to us in His Word, but we must use the tools. God will not force us to change our vocabulary. He has simply given us His Word and left the choice to us. The Holy Spirit is a gentleman—He will not come into our lives without our invitation and cooperation.

The previous passage of Scripture clearly states that death and life are in the tongue. Moreover, please consider what James said about the power of our word.

(James 3:2-6) For we all often stumble and fall and offend in many things. And if anyone does not offend in speech [never says the wrong things], he is a fully developed character and a perfect man, able to control his whole body and to curb his entire nature. If we set bits in the horses’ mouths to make them obey us, we can turn their whole bodies about. Likewise, look at the ships: though they are so great and are driven by rough winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the impulse of the helmsman determines. Even so the tongue is a little member, and it can boast of great things. See how much wood or how great a forest a tiny spark can set ablaze! And the tongue is a fire. [The tongue is a] world of wickedness set  among our members, contaminating and depraving the whole body and setting on fire the wheel of birth (the cycle of man’s nature), being itself ignited by hell (Gehenna).

Here in the book of James we have a much more detailed description of the productive as well as destructive power of our word. He clearly tells us that if we do not cause offense with our tongue we are perfect or mature in God’s eyes, able to control or determine the actions of our bodies. In other words, we will stop being body dominated, which is the instrument of sin (Rom. 6:6 TAB). Domination by our bodies keeps us in slavery to sin. The book of James says that the tongue is the key to curbing the nature of man. He is not referring to unregenerate man because he goes on to say that no man can tame the tongue. Please realize that James didn’t say, “the tongue cannot be tamed.” He said that man in himself could not do it. However, a child of God who is living in the Word, with the Word living in him, can surrender to the direction of God’s Word by the Holy Spirit. God’s Spirit has the power to keep our tongues operating in line with the will/Word of God.

Now that we have laid a foundation for what’s in a word, let us move on to a more in depth study of the power of a word itself.

Can A Word Create Its Own Reality?

            Words are very creative tools. They can be used to paint a mental picture of love and peace or one of fear and abuse. Verbal abuse is one of the most common forms of mistreatment in relationships today, and a leading cause of divorce. Countless relationships are damaged beyond human repair simply because of the way someone used words to destroy another persons self-esteem. The spirit of man can be wounded and broken because of cruel words.

On the other hand, words can also be used to paint mental pictures of good things. If I were to say, “flower,” instantly a picture of a flower would form in your mind. The more that I defined that picture, the more your mind would create the kind of picture that I was imagining. Thus if I said, “long stemmed flower” or “long stemmed red flower;” or even more detailed, “a long stemmed red rose,” you would know exactly what kind of flower I was thinking about. Now what do the Scriptures have to say about this?

(Genesis 1:1,3;9 NKJV) “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth…Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light Then God said, “Let the water under the heavens be gathered together into one place…and it was so.”

God spoke a word, and created every natural thing that could be seen. His words created this natural world according to their own reality. God literally painted a picture with His words, and created this whole natural world. God knew exactly what He wanted to create, and He used His words to properly form everything that became visible. Scientists have been quoted as saying, “the most perfect word that one could use to describe this whole universe is light.” “Let there be light” was the first command of creation which God spoke, thus perfectly framing the universe. The New Covenant speaks of this same phenomena in the book of Hebrews chapter eleven; by telling us that God spoke the word of command, and what God said had to appear.

(Hebrews 11:1,3) “NOW FAITH is the assurance (the confirmation, the title deed) of things [we] hope for, being the proof of things [we] do not see and the conviction of their reality [faith perceiving as real fact what is not revealed to the senses]…By faith we understand that the worlds [during the successive ages] were framed (fashioned, put in order and equipped for their intended purpose) by the Word of God, so that what we see was not made out of things which are visible.”

Here again we see how God used His Word (or words) to frame, fashion and set in order this whole universe for His intended purpose. We note, however, how God brought this all about. He spoke out His word in confidence or in faith, knowing that what He said—would come to pass.

God had faith (confidence, assurance) that everything He spoke into existence would be formed and fashioned just as He originally intended. God used His words, confident that they would produce what He designed them to produce.

Some believers have a problem with the notion that God Himself has and uses faith. But let’s take a brief look at what (Hebrews 11:1) is actually saying to us about what faith is. It tells us that faith is confidence, assurance and the title deed of what we hope for. So would it be too much to say that God the Father had full confidence and assurance that what He said would happen? Faith is our confidence and assurance that those things that we have hoped for will come to pass.

Thus, God released faith (confidence, assurance), in the words that He spoke believing that they would happen. God believes in Himself. He knows that He can do whatever ever He wants.

Moreover, the word that God spoke created the worlds according to the picture or reality, which He had within Himself. He released His word with the intended purpose of creating exactly what He pictured this universe to be; therefore, causing it to come into being by and through faith. We understand creation by faith, but the creation was also created by and through faith in God’s own words to bring His intended purpose to pass.

Can A Word Change Our Destiny?

(Proverbs 13:2,3) A good man eats good from the fruit of his mouth, but the desire of the treacherous is for violence. He who guards his mouth keeps his life, but he who opens wide his lips comes to ruin.

Referring to the question above, can a word really change the very destiny of our lives? I believe (Proverbs 13:2,3) clearly addresses this question. Our mouth (our word) produces fruit, good or evil. Furthermore, whoever guards his mouth will keep his life from all forms of sin and destruction. I do not see how this could be made any clearer than by this passage of Scripture. Our word has created either the good or the bad situations in our lives. God’s Word plainly tells us in the book of Proverbs chapter eighteen verse twenty states, “A man’s [moral] self shall be filled with the fruit of his mouth and with the consequence of his words he must be satisfied….”

In The Mouth of At Least Two

(Proverbs 12:14) From the fruit of his words a man shall be satisfied with good, and the work of a man’s hands shall come back to him [as a harvest].

(Proverbs 10:31,32) The mouths of the righteous (those harmonious with God) bring forth skillful and godly Wisdom, but the perverse tongue shall be cut down [like a barren and rotten tree]. The lips of the [uncompromisingly] righteous know [and therefore utter] what is acceptable, but the wicked knows [and therefore speaks only] what is obstinately willful and contrary.

(Matthew 12:34-37) You offspring of vipers! How can you speak good things when you are evil (wicked)? For out of the fullness (the overflow, the superabundance) of the heart the mouth speaks. The good man from his inner good treasure flings forth good things, and the evil man out of his inner evil storehouse flings forth evil things. But I tell you, on the day of judgment men will have to give account for every idle (inoperative, nonworking) word they speak. For by  your  words  you will be justified and acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned and sentenced.

How anyone who calls himself a believer could read the previously cited verses, and despite what they say go around and speak words that are contrary to Scriptural instruction is beyond spiritual comprehension. I can only say that the words of the prophet Ezekiel still ring true today. “Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a rebellious house, which have eyes to see, and see not they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they are a rebellious house” (Ezekiel 12). Ignorance and rebellion could be the only logical answers to why so many believers ignore God’s Word. Like it or not, our words will either bless or curse (defeat) us!

What Can Happen When Ignorance Talks?

            I want to continue with a practical example of what can, and often times, does happen when we let our ignorance do the talking. I realize for many this illustration may be painful, still, please don’t spiritually disconnect.

I would like to do a Scriptural investigation of the life of Job. We’ve heard so much opinion and theological debate concerning him, but I believe it’s time for us to really see what the Bible has to say about Job’s trials. Tradition has made Job appear to be the model of Christianity, but was Job really the portrait of how a believer should act during a trial.

(Job 1:8-12 NKJV) “Then the Lord said to Satan, ‘Have you considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil?’ So Satan answered the Lord and said, ‘Does Job fear God for nothing? Have You not made a hedge around him, around his household, and around all that he has on every side…But now, stretch out Your hand and touch all that he has, and he will surely curse You to Your face!’  And the Lord said to Satan, ‘Behold, all that he has is in your power; only do not lay a hand on his person….’”

Let’s examine what we have just read. God makes a statement to Satan about Job, “Have you considered my servant job?” The Spirit Filled Life Bible uses a side note that says, “Lit. set your heart on.”1 Thus God literally said, “Have you set your heart on My servant Job?” Here God is showing us that Satan had already set his heart on destroying Job, thus destruction was the will of Satan for Jobs life. Satan; therefore, was attempting to deceive God into giving him what he wanted (Jobs life) and God exposed Satan’s motive before he was even able to open his mouth. Satan goes as far as trying to get God to stretch out His hand against Job to destroy him, fulfilling Satan’s will and purpose for Job’s life.

However, what was God’s response to Satan’s attempt? He replied, “Behold, all that he has is in your power….” To some this is proof of God giving His “stamp” of approval upon Satan’s deceptive plan to destroy the life of Job. Unfortunately, some sincere believers see this as God partnering up with Satan to make Job (and us) miserable. This couldn’t be further from the truth. God and Satan aren’t allies. He doesn’t dance with the devil! He doesn’t bring evil, through Satan, into our lives to teach us. God uses His Word and the Holy Spirit to instruct His people—not evil!

God told Satan “Behold,” but what does behold mean, and why would God use this sort of wording? According to the concordance, the word behold means, “lo, see.”2 Despite this definition, I was still kind of out in the dark as to how lo and see were being used in this passage. Researching further, I determined how the words lo and see were used in other portions of the book of Job.

The word Lo, is defined as “lo! behold.”3 Similarly, the word see means “advise self, behold, consider, discern; gaze, take heed; lo, look; perceive, regard; cause to or let see, look, think, view.”4 God told Satan to see (perceive, understand) that something had happened to the hedge that He had built around Job already, and Satan didn’t perceive it.

I finally realized what God said to Satan that day: “And the Lord said to Satan, “Behold (lo, see, advise yourself, consider, discern, gaze; take heed, perceive, think) all that he has is within your power….” God did not take heed to Satan’s challenge of lowering His hedge of protection, no, no, no! God was literally saying to Satan, “Behold, see, look; perceive, understand, all he has is already within your ability to attack, but do not harm his life.” God didn’t lower His hedge around Job so that Satan could torment him. God Himself called Job righteous, (because of His covenant). Then why would our loving Father bring torment on a righteous servant? Such reasoning is foolishness and religious ignorance of the true character of God Almighty.

Think about this for a moment from an earthly parent’s position. How many decent, godly parents would take their child and voluntarily put that baby out in the open where wild animals could come in and destroy that child? I can say this with 100% confidence that there isn’t a decent, godly parent in this world who would commit such a foolish act. Therefore why in the Name of Jesus, would the Church try and make our heavenly Father appear to be so cruel and insensitive? Why would He do something so appalling that even decent human parents would never do? Truth is He would never even think of destroying one of His servants. Especially, one who is totally devoted to Him and His will.

Pruning Away Traditional “Hedge” Work

(Job 1:10 KJV) Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.

(Ecclesiastes 10:8 KJV) He that diggeth a pit shall fall into it; and whoso breaketh an hedge, a serpent shall bite him.

(Ezekiel 13:4,5 KJV) O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts. Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel….”

(Ezekiel 22:30,31 KJV) “And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none. Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them….”

In every verse of Scripture cited here, the hedge that is being referred to was a spiritual hedge of protection. In addition, (Eccl. 10:8) refers to our own willfulness in breaking the hedge of protection; thus allowing our own destruction. Please notice closely (Ezek. 13:4,5 & Ezek. 22:30,31). Both passages of Scripture overtly state that God desired that someone would stand in the gap, and make up the hedge. What gap was God talking about? I believe He was referring to gaps that the people had made in their spiritual hedge of protection, thus causing the hedge to be lowered and to acquire holes of vulnerability to the enemy’s attack, where a serpent could bite them…

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Beauty Out of Ashes


Isaiah 61: 2-4 (TAB) To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord [the year of His favor] and the day of vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn, To grant [consolation and joy] to those who mourn in Zion—to give them an ornament (a garland or diadem) of beauty instead of ashes, the oil of joy instead of mourning, the garment [expressive] of praise instead of a heavy, burdened, and failing spirit—that they may be called oaks of righteousness [lofty, strong, and magnificent, distinguished for uprightness, justice, and right standing with God], the planting of the Lord, that He may be glorified. And they shall rebuild the ancient ruins; they shall raise up the former desolations and renew the ruined cities, the devastations of many generations.

This is the true story of a married couple who have been on a long journey from ashes to beauty, back to ashes, and finally back to beauty once again. It is the real life account of the miraculous restorative power of God at work in an ordinary couple’s life. God’s restoring power is so awesome…He has never left us or forsaken us even in our worst times-Times of personal rebellion. Times of ignorance. Times we allow the devil to totally disrupt our lives. But, despite all this He has never left us or forsaken us.

In the minds of some people, the Christian life is either a bed of roses or a bed of thorns..In reality, however, it is actually both. We often have very blessed times, but we also have our times of tragedy and difficulty. Being a Christian in this world today is not an easy thing. We all face difficulties on a daily basis. We all have tragedies to overcome. The most wonderful part is that He always stands by our side waiting patiently for us to repent and run back to Him-To His favor, to His mercy, and to His protection (see Psalm 91). The most important thing to always remember is that the Lord will never leave us or forsake us.

Are we advocating living in sin and rebellion? No, not at all! He is patient and merciful. He will never force Himself upon us or make us obey His Word. He wants us to be obedient and follow His Word out of heart-felt love for Him and not just because of the consequences or even because of all the blessings that He’s promised in His Word. The motivation of our hearts is the most important element to God. He does not want us to serve Him like a bunch of robots. That is why He gave man his own free will to choose to serve God or reject Him.

The choice is up to us how we live. We are the ones who must decide whether or not we will follow God’s Word. It is important to note that God does not send anyone to hell…we are the ones who choose whether we go to heaven or hell. No one can ever blame God for sending them to hell. The Lord Jesus has paved the way to heaven. It is our choice and our responsibility to see and accept His way. We must willingly surrender our lives to be obedient to God in His Word. He will never force us to follow His direction.


John, in the book of Revelation, expressed a powerful truth to us in our generation when he wrote by the Spirit of Grace:

Revelation 12:10-11 (NKJV) Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.”

Too often, we Christians are embarrassed by our pasts and withhold powerful testimonies of God’s grace that could be used of the Lord to minister to others, and deliver them from Satan’s grip (note Romans 6:21 in comparison with Acts 19:18-20 and 1 Corinthians 15:9-10).

I, too, felt this same way for years, but I have come to the place where I believe the Lord wants my story to be shared for the benefit of others, that they likewise may find peace through genuine repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.

The Bible clearly tells us: If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and cleanse us of all unrighteousness (1 Jn. 1:9). I realize that my past is a very private, personal situation, and that I am not obligated to tell anyone anything about it.

However, I also believe that God has called us to live a life of honor and integrity. This is the reason that I am writing this prologue. I want to thank a friend, Rich Vermillion, for encouraging me to write this testimony, without him even realizing what he was doing.

Freedom from Sins of the Past

            For many, one of the most embarrassing things to mention within Christianity is divorce. This is partly because of the strong denunciation of this painful occurrence by well-meaning ministers who seek to deter others from going through this, and partly because of the stigma that is associated with divorce because of such teaching. Though ministers usually mean well when they condemn divorce, they too often cause emotional damage and spiritual “shipwreck” in the lives of those whose hearts have already been wounded. So those people often hide their past, even if God’s grace brought them out of the messes they once found themselves in.

Consider These Verses of Scripture

Matthew 10:32 (TAB) Therefore, everyone who acknowledges Me before men and confesses Me [ out of a state of oneness with Me], I will also acknowledge him before My Father Who is in heaven and confess [that I am abiding in] him.

Romans 10:10 (TAB) For with the heart a person believes (adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Christ) and so is justified (declared righteous, acceptable to God), and with the mouth he confesses (declares openly and speaks out freely his faith) and confirms [his] salvation.

John 3: 15-21 (TAB) In order that everyone who believes in Him [who cleaves to Him, trusts Him, and relies on Him] may not perish, but have eternal life and [actually] live forever! For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life. For God did not send the Son into the world in order to judge (to reject, to condemn, to pass sentence on) the world, but that the world might find salvation and be made safe and sound through Him. He who believes in Him [who clings to, trusts in, relies on Him] is not judged [he who trusts in Him never comes up for judgment; for him there is no rejection, no condemnation-he incurs no damnation]; but he who does not believe (cleave to, rely on, trust in Him) is judged already [he has already been convicted and has already received his sentence] because he has not believed in and trusted in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [He is condemned for refusing to let his trust rest in Christ’s name.] The [basis of the] judgment (indictment, the test by which men are judged, the ground for the sentence) lies in this: the Light has come into the world, and people have loved the darkness rather than and more than the Light, for their works (deeds) were evil. For every wrongdoer hates (loathes, detests) the Light, and will not come out into the Light but shrinks from it, lest his works (his deeds, his activities, his conduct) be exposed and reproved. But he who practices truth [who does what is right] comes out into the Light; so that his works may be plainly shown to be what they are—wrought with God [divinely prompted, done with God’s help, in dependence upon Him].

In the previous verses of Scripture, we are told that we must realize [comprehend, understand] we have all violated God’s instructions and are worthy of Eternal Separation from God. In other words, the punishment for unrepentant sin is eternal (never ending) torment in hell. However, if we repent or openly admit that we have sinned, then we must confess that sin and turn away from it. Thus He will forgive our sin, and we will be adopted as part of God’s family. Without true repentance, there is no forgiveness of sin.

Therefore we will be saved from Eternal Separation from God (love, forgiveness, joy and peace etc.). Does that mean that we will never make another mistake—No! It does, however, mean that if we sin, He will forgive us and restore our relationship with Him. In fact, the difference between a sinner and a saint is simple: One practices sin and the other practices righteousness:

1 John 3:4-10 (TAB) Everyone who commits (practices) sin is guilty of lawlessness; for [that is what] sin is, lawlessness (the breaking, violation of God’s law by transgression or neglect—being unrestrained and unregulated by His commands and His will).  You know that He appeared in visible form and became Man to take away [upon Himself] sins, and in Him there is no sin [essentially and forever]. No one who abides in Him [who lives and remains in communion with and in obedience to Him—deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] commits (practices) sin. No one who [habitually] sins has either seen or known Him [recognized, perceived, or understood Him, or has had an experiential acquaintance with Him]. Boys (lads), let no one deceive and lead you astray. He who practices righteousness [who is upright, conforming to the divine will in purpose, thought, and action, living a consistently conscientious life] is righteous, even as He is righteous. [But] he who commits sin [who practices evildoing] is of the devil [takes his character from the evil one], for the devil has sinned (violated the divine law) from the beginning. The reason the Son of God was made manifest (visible) was to undo (destroy, loosen, and dissolve) the works the devil [has done]. No one born (begotten) of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, for God’s nature abides in him [His principle of life, the divine sperm, remains permanently within him]; and he cannot practice sinning because he is born (begotten) of God. By this it is made clear who take their nature from God and are His children and who take their nature from the devil and are his children: no one who does not practice righteousness [who does not conform to God’s will in purpose, thought, and action] is of God; neither is anyone who does not love his brother (his fellow believer in Christ).

A genuine born-again Christian has the nature of God rooted within them, and they will practice righteousness as they learn how to walk in Christ. However, by indicating that they are practicing the previous passage of Scripture shows us that they are not perfect at it, and will make mistakes. Like playing a piano, we who are born of God will occasionally hit a wrong “key” and make a terrible sound. But then we pick up where we left off by repenting, and begin practicing again.

Those who are not genuinely born-again, however, do not have that nature within them. They may put on a “show” of righteousness (for example, while at church or when people are watching) but they cannot help themselves from practicing sin and perfecting it because that is their very nature.

So in sharing this, let me be clear that there was a point in my Christian life when I fell away into sin, but the nature of God within me convicted me and eventually drew me back into practicing righteousness once again. I have walked upon the Narrow Way of Christ ever since, and want to use my story to compel others to pick themselves up out of the “mud” of sin through repentance, and to let the Blood of Jesus cleanse them so that they can begin walking with Christ once again. I know the Lord has led me to write this testimony and I hope that those reading this can be inspired to admit their faults, turn away from them and be transformed by the Source of  all Peace—Jesus!

It’s time for me to acknowledge the truth—And you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free. John 8:32 (TAB).

I have been saved (born-again) since 1 January 1979, at the age of 11. Hence, most of the foolish things I have done in my life have been done either as a believer or as a Christian who got diverted off the path of salvation. Therefore, I am writing this with much regret, but not condemnation. I realize where I have come from, and I pray that those who read my testimony will learn that there is forgiveness, restoration and peace, just as I have experienced. During my dark period, the Lord never left me. He was always there convicting me of my mistakes and trying to motivate me to come back to His path.

Gregg’s Brief Testimony

            When I was in the military, while stationed at Ft. Sam Houston in San Antonia, TX, I was unfortunately not following God’s instructions for living. While I was there, I met a woman  whom I started to date, and became involved in a sexual relationship with her. Due to my Christian upbringing, I knew this was not right. I wanted to do the right thing, so I asked this woman to marry me after only knowing her for 3 months. I had a very close friend in the Lord who found out I was planning to marry this woman, and my friend wrote me a letter pleading with me NOT to marry her because we were not equally yoked [not following God’s plan for living together, see 2 Corinthians 6:14 and 1 Corinthians 7:39]. Obviously, I did not listen to my friend, nor to the Lord. When we are not correctly following God’s plan for our lives, we are often not able to listen to the Lord’s direction, which is found in the Bible. I should have seen my friend’s letter as a sign from God and ran as far and as fast as possible away from that situation—but I didn’t!

Things Continued To Spiral Out of Control

            Needless to say, we got married. My wife was also a soldier in the military. She had received orders to go to Germany. One day she told me: “I’m going to go to Germany, if you want to go too, you can—or you can do whatever you want to, but I am going.” My heart sunk! I had orders to go to Ft. Ord, CA and had dreamed of going there for years. The gravity of my mistake had manifested before my eyes with her statement. I didn’t know what to do! I had just married this woman, and I believe that married people should not live in separate places if it is at all possible. So I put in my paperwork to have “joint domicile” with her in the US military, which was granted. My wife went to Germany and I stayed behind while the paperwork was being processed. I finally arrived in Germany on 8 April 1990. My wife was in a support battalion and was in the field when I arrived in country.

Our relationship was rocky from the start, and it became even worse once I arrived in Germany in 1990. My wife regularly withheld love, affection, emotion, sex, etc., telling me that I was emotional enough for the two of us. She was often cruel and would mock me publicly by making jokes. When I would try to tell her how she was making me feel, she just laughed more. I became increasingly miserable, lonely, and depressed. I tried several times to reach out to her, and prayed often that she would hear my heart because I wanted us to work together as a team. Sadly, everything I tried failed. We were not following the same path, just as my friend tried to tell me. Looking back, I wish I had listened.

Enter the first Gulf War… 

            It was mid-July 1990, just three months after I had arrived in Germany, when my wife received orders to go to the Persian Gulf (Kuwait and Saudi Arabia). This was the beginning of Desert Shield, which later became Desert Storm. It was a huge blow to both of us. We were not happy about her having to go, so she came up with the idea of trying to get pregnant so that she didn’t have to leave. For someone who wanted to get pregnant, she surely didn’t push the issue of procreation. She was still cold and distant. Looking back, I am very thankful that she did not become pregnant, although I was very upset at the time about her having to go to a combat zone.

She went off to war and I stayed behind working as a medical specialist at a health clinic. While she was gone, I started hanging out in the wrong places and partying almost every night for 7 months straight. I was drinking like it was going out of style. I had opened a door to the devil, which he kicked open wider, and then rushed in like a flood. I tried to separate myself from this lifestyle but I was hopelessly unsuccessful. If we allow bad behavior to start in our lives, it is often nearly impossible to separate ourselves from it—without help from the Lord! As I said previously, I was becoming increasingly miserable, lonely, and depressed. I felt so unloved. Consequently, while trying to fill the void inside, I started frequenting various bars and dance clubs. In the beginning it was just because I didn’t want to go home to our empty house night after night and stare at the walls of an empty house.

While my wife was in the Gulf, I heard from several associates that she was living it up before I arrived in Germany as well as that she had been unfaithful. Though she never admitted it, many of the things that were said seemed to answer the questions of why she was so uncompassionate toward me. I became even more distraught, angry, and lonely. I began to feel betrayed. I was an emotional mess, and getting worse by the day.

Without going into any further detail—I was unfaithful to my wife. Although, I know I am forgiven, and it is under the Blood of Jesus (1 Jn. 1:9), this is something that is still with me to this day. I could not believe my own behavior. It was so out of character for me to act this way. I was disgusted with myself, and often wished I was dead, although I never attempted suicide. I regret my behavior and wish that I had not been so foolish. I listened to the devil—and I got caught in a vicious trap of destruction.

            Eventually, I came clean with her and we tried to work it out. However, it became increasingly clear that this marriage was not going to be reconciled. I knew that in order for it to work, we would both have to make some serious changes and each give one hundred percent to making the marriage work. We even went to a female military counselor/therapist for marriage counseling. Sadly, that female counselor did not try to help us reconcile, but merely took sides against me with my wife. I was the center of ridicule between them. I felt like dirt, and neither of them were helping to bring about any kind of restoration—only further condemnation! Since we were stationed in Germany, we were unable to file for divorce with a US court—the military does not preside over divorces in cases overseas. We had to seek an international body to grant the divorce. This was sought, found, and within two months the divorce was final.

The Next Chapter Opens

            Soon after, I met a German national and we began to date. However, I was still so messed up emotionally from all that had taken place. She tried to help me get my emotions under control. This woman was far more stable than I, probably because she had a proper European upbringing. After a while, I gave my heart back to the Lord, and she gave her heart to the Lord, for the first time, with me. We were on a new path, a better path, and finally doing it the right way. We got engaged and were later married. However, I still had a lot to learn about marriage though. It was a very difficult adjustment period for both of us, especially me. I had to re-learn that not every woman was out to embarrass me in public, and withhold love or affection. I felt like an emotionally battered spouse. The Lord restored me to the man that I had previously been: faithful, loving, and compassionate. If it were not for His grace and forgiveness and her understanding, I would still be a lost and broken man.

Nevertheless, I was determined to learn from my mistakes. To this day, I never want to forget how I felt when I examined my despicable behavior. Why? I never want to ever repeat the same mistakes again! I thank the Lord that I never have repeated many of my old mistakes. Although our marriage was far from perfect, it got better after the first year. The Lord was working on me and healing my emotions.

Return To The US

            My wife & I felt that the Lord was leading us to start our own home health company in Germany. We believed the best way to do this would be for me to further my medical education by going to nursing school in the United States. I contacted my family in Colorado and in mid-December 1998, I went to Ft. Collins, CO to prepare for nursing school. I stayed in Colorado with my father and step-mother until August 1999. I was told by one school that there was no waiting list to start nursing school, but not long after I arrived in Colorado, I found out differently. I contacted a community college in upstate NY, near my hometown, and found that they had not yet selected their students for the nursing program. So I decided to head back to NY to  attend nursing school.

During the time I was in Colorado, my wife visited me. I noticed something was different about her attitude. She off-the-cuff mentioned that she had been hanging out with some of our old friends in Germany and had gone to a few dance clubs, among other things. My heart sunk once again. I knew then that was the reason for her change in attitude. I asked her to stop doing this and she promised that she would. However, I would later find out that she was being less than truthful.

We were planning to settle down in Germany since my wife had a well paying job at the FrankfurtAirport. She returned to Germany and I continued to prepare for nursing school. I spent the vast majority of my time studying, going to church, or spending time with my parents. I was determined to better my life by advancing my medical career path.

When I finished nursing school, I returned to Germany. I was greeted at the airport by my wife, but when I went to give her a kiss, she turned her head to avoid it. I was blown away. Later, during the trip home, she proceeded to tell me that she wanted a divorce. I asked her why she didn’t tell me this before I came home to Germany. She hemmed and hawed, changed the subject, and never really answered my question!

I was committed to our marriage, and I asked if she would be willing to go to counseling with our Pastor to see if we could restore our marriage. She agreed and we spent nine months meeting with our Pastor one to two times a week. During that time, however, something else was occurring. My wife started working extra hours to build up her cosmetic, facial, and massage side business. She seemed to be avoiding me more and more, even while we were trying to “work things out.” At the conclusion of our marital counseling, my Pastor sat me down privately to talk. He said he was concerned that we were not making much progress because he had spoken with my wife privately and she told him that she still wanted to end the marriage. My Pastor told me that he felt that I had no other choice but to grant her desire. He said he didn’t agree with divorce, but since she had already made this firm decision, it would be best for all to grant her wish and to move on with my life.

I sat down with my wife, and asked her directly if she still wanted to end our marriage—and she did! She also told me that while I was living in the U.S., she had met someone at work but that “nothing was going on” and that she was attracted to this man.

Obviously, my heart was crushed! I had remained faithful, only to hear that my wife was attracted to another man. Most people who have heard this story believe that my wife was lying—that she had already been unfaithful based on the drastic changes in her attitude and personality. Though she never admitted to any unfaithfulness, it provided me no comfort under the circumstances that prevailed. Jesus said in John 3:20, NKJV, “For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed”. Consequently, I was being faithful to my wife, however, she did not appear to be doing the same in return.

There was nothing more I could do. We had gone to counseling, yet to no avail. Thus, I moved back to Colorado and filed for divorce. Everything was finalized seven months later.

            Our story continues…

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Who Made These Statements?

I wrote this blog post some time ago and have been contemplating posting it. If you don’t agree…that’s totally fine. All I ask is that the reader read it and research it more for themselves. I have done tons and tons and tons of research. I am NOT defending any preacher with this blog post…that is NOT what this is about. It is about the message, not the messenger…That is what my second book: Another Side of the Coin was ALL about… so read on…

Who Made These Statements?

            The heresy hunters have continually tried to imply that the beliefs that the Word of Faith teachers hold are heretical, began with E.W. Kenyon, and whatever other concocted thing they can come up with in order to “prove” that they were right about the teachings of the Word of Faith.

However, the quotations that follow adequately show that the teachings of the Word of Faith on subjects like: the Spiritually Death of Jesus, Jesus Went to Hell etc., were actually taught by the old well known teachers of the 1500’s-1900’s, and many of these quoted have been almost worshipped by the heresy hunter’s of today.

Most of these modern day heresy hunters will attempt to respond: “This is not what they meant” and various other distortions because they have no defense for these in your face statements given in the article. But, I challenge the reader to read these statements for one’s self, and ask one’s self if the arguments of the heresy hunters really hold water. I dare say that they do not.

The Quotes To Ponder:

As Luther put it, with his characteristic bluntness,

“Christ was accursed, and of all sinners the greatest. My sins caused Thee, dear Lord, to bear the wrath of God and become a curse, to taste the anguish of hell and to endure a bitter death…Christ had to feel in his innocent tender heart God’s wrath and judgment against sin and to taste for us eternal death and damnation, and in a word, to suffer all that a condemned sinner has deserved and must suffer forever.” (120) [Source: The Dying of Jesus Christ—from: Two Men Called Adam]

Jonathan Edwards wrote about the matter thus:

“Sin must be punished with an infinite punishment…the majesty of God requires this vindication. It cannot properly be vindicated without it, neither can God be just to Himself without this vindication.” (121) Satisfaction for sin demands equal penalty, and not until that penalty had been paid in full did the Father turn his face to his beloved Son again. [Source: The Dying of Jesus Christ—from: Two Men Called Adam]

The Following Quotations Came Originally From A Book: The Mystery of the 3 Days & Nights By Greg Bitgood and you can read the majority of this book at:

“Christ is full of grace, life, and salvation. The soul is full of sins, death, and damnation. Now let faith come between them and sins, death, and damnation will be Christ’s, while grace, life, and salvation will be the soul’s; for if Christ is a bridegroom, he must take upon himself the things which are his bride’s and bestow upon her the things that are his. If he gives her his body and very self, how shall he not give her all that is his? And if he takes the body of the bride, how shall he not take all that is hers? Here we have a most pleasing vision not only of communion but of a blessed struggle and victory and salvation and redemption. Christ is God and man in one person. He has neither sinned nor died, and is not condemned, and he cannot sin, die, or be condemned; his righteousness, life, and salvation are unconquerable, eternal, omnipotent. By the wedding ring of faith he shares in the sins, death, and pains of hell which are his bride’s. As a matter of fact, he makes them his own and acts as if they were his own and as if he himself had sinned; he suffered, died, and descended into hell that he might overcome them all.” [This quote was taken from John Dillenberger’s edition, Martin Luther, selections From His Writings where he comments: “If one were to single out one short document representing the content and spirit of Luther’s faith, “The Freedom of a Christian” would undoubtedly be at the top.”] {9}

Finally, we come to the logical conclusion that total and complete substitution meant that Christ would suffer and die the death that was due us. James Denny in his Book Christian Doctrine Of Reconciliation in speaking of those who take the strict legal idea of satisfaction pertaining to the atonement states: [Thee Martian Luther said this…]

“Few things in the history of Christian thinking are more extraordinary than the progeny of this ambiguous idea of satisfaction: ‘that every sin must be punished.’ Many theologians in applying it to Christ took it as a strict legal sense. He made satisfaction for sin by enduring the penalty which was due for it to mean. But this penalty was eternal death or the pains of hell. Could anybody say that Christ endured this? Luther said so, ‘…in His tender innocent heart He had to feel God’s wrath and judgment against sin, to taste for us eternal death and damnation, and in a word to suffer everything which a condemned sinner has merited and must suffer eternally.’ And ‘Look at Christ, who for thy sake has gone to hell and been abandoned by God as one damned forever.’ This is his interpretation of ‘My God, my God, why hast Thou forsaken me?’ Calvin with all his constitutional caution is almost equally emphatic. He makes much of the descent into hell saying, ‘…that invisible and incomprehensible judgment which he underwent at the bar of God; that we might know that not only was the body of Christ given up as the price of our redemption, but that there was another greater and more excellent price — namely, that He endured in His soul the dreadful torments of a condemned and lost man.’ One might conceive a man driven to this by the logic of legal satisfaction and contemplating it with awe. There is no trace of such emotion in the statement of it by John Owens, which cannot be read without a shudder. ‘The punishment due to our sin and the chastisement of our peace was upon Him, which that, it was the pains of hell and their nature and being, in their weight pressure, though not intendance and continuance, in being impossible that He should be detained by death. Who can deny and not be injurious to the justice of God which will inevitably inflict those pains through eternity upon sinners.’ It (that Christ should go to hell and suffer) is really given in the very conception of satisfaction if taken in the legal sense.” {10}

[Please remember who made the above statements…not CopelandLuther]

The ransom Jesus paid was not to the devil or any other force; it was paid to God. It was God’s justice that had to be vindicated. He could not overlook man’s sin; the price has to be paid! Billy Graham in his book Peace With God addresses the problem:  [Amen I agree 100%]

“The question remains ‘How can God be just — that is, true to Himself in nature and true to Himself in holiness, and yet justify the sinner?’ Because each man had to bear his own sins, all mankind was excluded from helping, since each was contaminated with the same disease. The only solution was for an innocent party to volunteer to die physically and spiritually as a substitution before God. This innocent party would have to take man’s judgement, penalty, and death. But where was such an individual? Certainly there was none on earth, for the Bible says, ‘All have sinned.’ There was only one possibility. God’s own Son was the only personality in the universe who had the capacity to bear in His own body the sins of the world.” {8}

“Christ is full of grace, life, and salvation. The soul is full of sins, death, and damnation. Now let faith come between them and sins, death, and damnation will be Christ’s, while grace, life, and salvation will be the soul’s; for if Christ is a bridegroom, he must take upon himself the things which are his bride’s and bestow upon her the things that are his. If he gives her his body and very self, how shall he not give her all that is his? And if he takes the body of the bride, how shall he not take all that is hers? Here we have a most pleasing vision not only of communion but of a blessed struggle and victory and salvation and redemption. Christ is God and man in one person. He has neither sinned nor died, and is not condemned, and he cannot sin, die, or be condemned; his righteousness, life, and salvation are unconquerable, eternal, omnipotent. By the wedding ring of faith he shares in the sins, death, and pains of hell which are his bride’s. As a matter of fact, he makes them his own and acts as if they were his own and as if he himself had sinned; he suffered, died, and descended into hell that he might overcome them all.” [This quote was taken from John Dillenberger’s edition, Martin Luther, selections From His Writings where he comments: “If one were to single out one short document representing the content and spirit of Luther’s faith, “The Freedom of a Christian” would undoubtedly be at the top.”] {9}

(quoted in a Sermon given by Leon Stump, “Jesus Went to Hell” Jan. 9, 1981).

“Few things in the history of Christian thinking are more extraordinary than the progeny of this ambiguous idea of satisfaction: ‘that every sin must be punished.’ Many theologians in applying it to Christ took it as a strict legal sense. He made satisfaction for sin by enduring the penalty which was due for it to mean. But this penalty was eternal death or the pains of hell. Could anybody say that Christ endured this? Luther said so, ‘…in His tender innocent heart He had to feel God’s wrath and judgment against sin, to taste for us eternal death and damnation, and in a word to suffer everything which a condemned sinner has merited and must suffer eternally.’ And ‘Look at Christ, who for thy sake has gone to hell and been abandoned by God as one damned forever.’ This is his interpretation of ‘My God, my God, why hast Thou forsaken me?’ Calvin with all his constitutional caution is almost equally emphatic. He makes much of the descent into hell saying, ‘…that invisible and incomprehensible judgment which he underwent at the bar of God; that we might know that not only was the body of Christ given up as the price of our redemption, but that there was another greater and more excellent price — namely, that He endured in His soul the dreadful torments of a condemned and lost man.’ One might conceive a man driven to this by the logic of legal satisfaction and contemplating it with awe. There is no trace of such emotion in the statement of it by John Owens, which cannot be read without a shudder. ‘The punishment due to our sin and the chastisement of our peace was upon Him, which that, it was the pains of hell and their nature and being, in their weight pressure, though not intendance and continuance, in being impossible that He should be detained by death. Who can deny and not be injurious to the justice of God which will inevitably inflict those pains through eternity upon sinners.’ It (that Christ should go to hell and suffer) is really given in the very conception of satisfaction if taken in the legal sense.” {10}

Martin Luther:

And this, no doubt, all the prophets did foresee in spirit, that Christ should become the greatest transgressor, murderer, adulterer, thief, rebel, blasphemer, &c. that ever was or could be in all the world. For he being made a sacrifice for the sins of the whole world, is not now an innocent person and without sins, is not now the Son of God born of the Virgin Mary; but a sinner, which hath and carrieth the sin of Paul, who was a blasphemer, an oppressor and a persecutor; of Peter, which denied Christ; of David, which was an adulterer, a murderer, and caused the Gentiles to blaspheme the name of the Lord; and briefly, which hath and beareth all the sins of all men in his body, that he might make satisfaction for them with his own blood…. But some man will say: it is very absurd and slanderous to call the Son of God a cursed sinner. I answer: if thou wilt deny him to be a sinner and accursed, deny also that he suffered, was crucified and died. For it is no less absurd to say, that the Son of God (as our faith confesseth and pleadeth) was crucified and suffered the pains of sin and death, than to say that he is a sinner and accursed. But if it be not absurd to confess and believe that Christ was crucified between two thieves, then it is not absurd to say also that he was made a curse for us; ‘God made Christ which knew no sin, to become sin for us, that we in him might be made the righteousness of God’ 2 Corinthians 5:21.” {5}

Again we consult Luther:

“Isaiah speaketh thus of Christ: ‘God,’ saith he, ‘laid the iniquity of us all upon him’ Is. 53:6. We must not make these words less than they are, but leave them in their own proper signification. For God dallieth not in the words of the prophet, but speaketh earnestly and of great love; to wit, that Christ, this Lamb of God should bear the iniquities of us all. But what is it to bear? The sophisters answer: to be punished. Very well. But wherefore is Christ punished? Is it not because he hath sin and beareth sin? …For this testimony is not the voice of an innocent, but of a suffering Christ, which took upon him to bear the person of all sinners, and therefore was made guilty of the sins of the whole world.” {8}

Luther uses strong language to describe the Saviour, but it rings with truth. Jesus was made to be our sin so that God could treat Him as a sinner. Billy Graham gives us an insight into why this was necessary:

“On the cross He was made sin. He was God- forsaken. Because He knew no sin there is a value beyond comprehension in the penalty He bore, a penalty that He did not need for Himself. If in bearing sin in His own body He created a value that He did not need for Himself, for whom was the value created?” {9}

We will close this chapter with the words of Martin Luther from his commentary of this verse:

“Wherefore, Christ was not only crucified and died, but sin also (through the love of the Divine Majesty) was laid upon him. When sin was laid upon him, then cometh the law and saith: Every sinner must die. Therefore, O Christ, if thou wilt answer, become guilty, and suffer punishment for sinners, thou must also bear sin and malediction. Paul therefore doth very allege this general law out of Moses as concerning Christ: “Everyone that hangeth upon the tree is the accursed of God.” Christ hath hanged upon the tree, therefore Christ is the accursed of God.” {11}

Rev. Robert Jamieson, D.D., in his commentary of the Bible carried this theme:

“Without considering the death of Christ as a substitutionary sacrifice, how mysterious, how unaccountable the manner in which he underwent it! Martyrs have not only stood calm, serene, and unmoved, but often have kindled into raptures when fastened to the stake — even amid the blaze of the s, or the gloom of the grave, have exulted as if already treading the confines of heaven, and breathing the air of immortality. They were poor, weak, sinful men; but Jesus had never sinned — he was totally separate from sinners. Moreover, he was the object of the Father’s infinite, complacent love; thrice the Divine pleasure in him was proclaimed from heaven. He knew, also, that his sufferings were but momentary, and that eternal glories awaited him; and yet when we hear the accents of agony that broke the stillness of Gethsemane, and see the “great drops of blood” bursting from every pore of his body we can believe, though we cannot fathom the depth of the mystery, that he was making atonement for the sins of all the redeemed, from Adam to the latest believer in his name and merits.” {1}

But we cannot stop at the physical sacrifice, real as it was; we must go on and see also the spiritual sacrifice. Billy Graham in his presentation of the sacrifice of the Lord in Peace with God declares:

“But the physical suffering of Jesus Christ was not the real suffering. Many men before Him had died. Many men had become martyrs. The awful suffering of Jesus Christ was His spiritual death. He reached the final issue of sin, fathomed the deepest sorrow, when God turned His back and hid His face so that He cried, ‘My God, why hast Thou forsaken me?’ ” [Emphasis is mine.] {5}

The only conclusion acceptable is: if Christ truly became man’s sin [II Cor. 5:21] then Jesus died spiritually in order to pay the entire sin debt. Billheimer explains:

“Sin is basically a spiritual thing, a thing of the spirit, and therefore must be dealt with in the spirit realm. If Jesus paid the full penalty of sin on the cross only, that is by His physical death alone, then sin is wholly a physical act. If sin is wholly a physical act, then every man could pay for his own sin by his own death. Because sin is basically or primarily in the spirit realm and of the spirit, therefore Jesus’ work was not finished when he yielded up His physical life on the cross. It was not completed until He descended into hell, paid once and for all the eternal consequences of the aggregate sin of the world, completely despoiled Satan and all the hosts of evil, arose triumphantly from the dead, and carried His blood into the heavenly Holy of Holies and sprinkled it upon the Mercy Seat there. Hallelujah!” {8}

C.S. Lovett in his commentary of Hebrews 2:9, “Jesus would taste death on behalf of every man,” expounds on the two deaths:

“He did experience death, and more. He died TWICE! That is, He died physically and spiritually. While Jesus was on the cross He suffered SPIRITUAL death, the true wages of sin (Rom. 6:23). Yes, He died physically, as the result of His obedience. But it was spiritual death that He tasted for every man. His physical death was not substitutionary, for we all die physically. Every man goes through physical death for himself. However “taste” is an accurate word. Jesus experienced spiritual death for only a short time. He didn’t remain spiritually dead. While we don’t understand HOW He did it, we do know WHEN. His words from the cross tell us. At noon on the day of crucifixion, the sky became darkened. Then at 3 p.m., He gave that awful cry… ‘My God! My God! Why hast Thou forsaken Me!’ (Matt. 27:46). In that moment our sins were laid on Him and “He became sin for us…” (2 Cor. 5:21). Since sin separates men from God, the MAN Christ Jesus suffered spiritual death that instant.” [All emphasis is his.] {10}

We repeat the precious words of Luther:

“By the wedding ring of faith he shares in the sins, death, and pains of hell which are his bride’s. As a matter of fact, he makes them his own and acts as if they were his own and as if he himself had sinned; he suffered, died, and descended into hell that he might overcome them all.” {16}

M.R. DeHann, M.D., in his book The Chemistry of the Blood, gives us some enlightening scientific facts:

“It is now definitely known that the blood which flows in an unborn baby’s arteries and veins is not derived from the mother but is produced within the body of the fetus. Yet it is only after the sperm has entered the ovum and a fetus begins to develop that blood appears. …God provided a way whereby that man (Jesus) would have a human body derived from Adam but have blood from a separate source.” {17}

Leon Stump

“The evidence that Jesus went to hell and suffered the penalty our sins deserved after He died physically is three-fold. First, it is the logical extension of the fact that Christ was our substitute. Since He was taking our place, suffering in our stead, the logical extension of this fact would be that He went where we should have gone as sinners. And if He didn’t, we may wonder how God could say the penalty for sin has been paid, because that penalty was more than physical death — it was hell. And if the penalty has not been paid, we may wonder how God can really make the sinner righteous. …Secondly, Christ’s going to Hell is the logical extension of His actually being made sin for us and dying spiritually. If He became what we were in spirit, He would have gone where we would have gone. And if He didn’t become what we were, we may wonder how we have been freed from what we were (not just forgiven of what we did), and how Paul could say our ‘old man was crucified with Him.’ [Romans 6:6]. Thirdly, there is definite scriptural evidence that Christ went to Hell.” {1}

The awful reality of this entire ordeal was not our sin nor Him sharing our nature, but God pouring out His full wrath and fury upon His beloved Son. Billheimer comments on this passage:

“The agonies which Christ endured in that dark prison are believed to be described in Psalm 88: …No finite mind can ever comprehend the depth of anguish He endured during that seeming eternity in the nether abyss. It is probably best described in the words of the prophet, “He hath poured out his soul unto death” (Isa. 53:12). He suffered in our stead, until, in the mind of God, the claims of eternal justice were fully met, as confirmed in Isaiah 53:11: “He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied.” … Eternal judgment against sin could not be satisfied by merely turning His Son over to the insufferable tortures of Satan. Justice required that the full fury of the Father’s own wrath against the cumulative sin of the human race be poured out upon Him unto the uttermost without stint or reservation — see again Psalm 88.” {7}

Psalm 88 is probably the most graphic picture we have of what it would be like to suffer judgment at the hands of God. Whether or not this passage is specifically speaking of Christ does not matter, for as we have seen and will continue to see, Jesus suffered the penalty that was our due. Psalm 88 is a perfect picture of what that penalty encompassed.

Billheimer speaks of the extremity to which Christ went to bear our punishment:

“His spirit must not only descend into hell, but into the lowest hell. The extreme penalty had to be paid. He must ‘taste death for every man’ (Heb. 2:9). There could be no adequate substitution unless Christ actually paid, once and for all, the eternal consequences of the aggregate sin of the world. That means that He endured all that combined humanity could suffer. T.H. Nelson said, ‘If Christ in spirit did not thus ‘descend into hell,’ then we have no legal ground of assurance that we may escape that horrid prison.’ The Father turned Him over, not only to the agony and death of Calvary, but to the satanic tortures of His pure spirit as part of the just desert of the sin of all the race. As long as Christ was ‘the essence of sin,’ He was at Satan’s mercy in that place of torment where all finally impenitent sinners are imprisoned upon leaving this life (Luke 16:19-31), which seems to be the headquarters from which Satan operates (Rev. 9:1,2,11).” {11}

Martin Luther also speaks of this horrible torment in the abyss:

“…in His tender innocent heart He had to feel God’s wrath and judgment against sin, to taste for us eternal death and damnation, and in a word to suffer everything which a condemned sinner has merited and must suffer eternally. … Look at Christ, who for thy sake has gone to hell and been abandoned by God as one damned forever.” {12}

Billy Graham also speaks of Christ’s experience in hell as torment rather than comfort:

“How it was accomplished in the depth of darkness man will never know. I know only one thing, He bore my sins in His body upon the tree. He stood where I should have stood. The pains of hell that were my portion were heaped on Him, and I am able to go to heaven and merit that which is not my own, but is His every right.” {13}

We have seen from scripture after scripture that Christ endured more in the 3 days and nights than mere comfort and a long sojourn in the heart of the earth. Instead we have seen the intense spiritual torment in hades and even deeper, the abyss of hades. Jesus underwent what awaited us in our sinful condition. He endured what sinners will endure if they fail to hear and receive the gospel. It is only because He did this that we will never have to endure the torment. I am sorry that Christ had to do what He did, but I will be eternally grateful that He did die and go to hell in my place!

Pastor Leon Stump is helpful in his commentary on this verse:

” ‘Manifested in the flesh’ would include His birth to His actual physical death when He no longer was in the flesh. ‘Justified (made righteous) in spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles’ would all have to be in the spirit before He was raised from the dead physically because the Gentiles were not preached to in His earthly ministry — only the lost sheep of the house of Israel. ‘Believed on in the world’ refers to His post-resurrection appearances; ‘received up into glory’ is the Ascension. He was made righteous in spirit after He had first been made sin in spirit and died physically.” {1}

Kenneth Wuest:

I PETER 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

Here again we encounter the same problem with the King James translation as with Romans 4:25. The translators are giving us two different meanings in the statements, “in the flesh” and “by the Spirit,” when the same meaning of “in” should be applied to both. Also it is necessary to understand that it is not the Holy Spirit which Peter is speaking about, but rather Christ’s own human spirit. Wuest has a lengthy but worthwhile explanation of this verse:

“In the same way, the words ‘flesh’ and ‘Spirit’ are contrasted and are logical opposites. The word translated ‘Spirit,’ pneumati, is in the same case and classification as the word for ‘flesh,’ sarki. But the Holy Spirit is not a logical contrast to the human body of our Lord. It is the human spirit of our Lord that is set over against His human body. It is true that our Lord was raised from the dead by the power of the Holy Spirit, and that is taught by Paul in Romans 8:11. But Peter is not teaching that truth here. He maintains the perfect contrast between our Lord’s human body and His human spirit. The translators of the A.V. have capitalized the word ‘spirit,’ making it refer to the Holy Spirit. …The word ‘spirit’ in I Peter 3:18 is not capitalized in Nestle’s text [one of the best Greek manuscripts], which indicates that he thought that the word referred, not to the Holy Spirit but to the human spirit of the Lord Jesus. But this again is a textual critic’s interpretation. All of which goes to say that the present writer has a perfect right to write the word ‘spirit’ in the passage in question without capitalization if he thinks that a careful exegesis of its context, based upon the rules of Greek grammar, warrants him in doing so. The problem is therefore purely one of interpretation and not at all of textual evidence. The translation reads, “having in fact been put to death with respect to the flesh, but made alive with respect to the spirit.” That preserves the balance in which the apostle contrasts the physical death of our Lord with the fact that His human spirit was made alive. But how are we to understand this latter? To make alive Christ’s human spirit presupposes the death of that human spirit. Our Lord on Calvary’s Cross cried, ‘My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?’ (Matt.27:46). The Greek word translated ‘forsaken’ means ‘to abandon, desert, leave in straits, leave helpless, leave destitute, leave in the lurch, let one down.’ ” {5}

Billheimer speaks of this moment of conquering in the heart of the earth:

“As long as He was identified with sin, He was in the clutches of Satan and the hosts of hell, just like any lost sinner. But when He was justified and made alive, adjudged and declared righteous in the Supreme Court of the universe, the tables were turned. The battle in that cavern of despair is described by Peter in Acts 2:24 ‘Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that he should be held by it’ (NS). This implies a tremendous effort on the part of hell. When He, as an authentic man, had completely disarmed and dethroned the arch foe of God and man, He burst forth triumphantly from that age-old prison of the dead.” {1}

W.E. Vine gives an excellent exposition on this truth in his dictionary:

“There is no doubt that Satan and his hosts gathered together to attack the soul of Christ, while He was enduring, in propitiatory sacrifice, the judgment due to our sins, and fulfilling the great work of redemption. There is an intimation of this in Psa. 22:21, ‘Save Me from the lions mouth; yea, from the horns of wild oxen.’ Doubtless the powers of darkness gathered against the Lord at that time, fiercely assaulting Him to the utmost of their power. He Himself had said, ‘This is your hour, and the power of darkness’ (Luke 22:53). The metaphor of putting off from Himself these powers need not be pressed to the extent of regarding them as a garment clinging about Him. It seems to stand simply as a vivid description of His repulsion of their attack and of the power by which He completely overthrew them.” {3}

E.W. Kenyon is worth quoting as He expounds on this glorious moment in universal history:

“Here is a picture of Christ in Hell, with the whole host of demons attempting to keep Him there, but when the penalty of our sin had been fully met, Satan had no power to hold Him longer. …The very moment the sin problem was settled, that moment Jesus Christ was legally justified, was made alive in spirit once more, and assumed His wonderful dominion, authority, and power. Hurling back the hosts of demons, He became the Master of Hell; putting them off from Himself, He hurled them hopeless and powerless back into the dark abyss. …The matchless mighty Christ had gone into the strong room, the very citadel of Hell, into the crown room of the Black Prince and Ruler of death; He had conquered him in honorable combat; He had taken from him his authority, his dominion; He brings it back and offers it to fallen man through His matchless name and grace.” {5}

Martin Luther also declared:

“To be brief, all the enemies which did before torment and oppress me, Christ Jesus hath brought to nought: he hath spoiled them and made a show of them openly, triumphing by himself over them [Col. 2:15], in such sort, that they now rule and reign no more over me, but are constrained to serve me.” {6}

John G. Lake, whom God used mightily as a missionary to Africa and in an astounding healing ministry in the U.S. unparalleled in modern times, said this about Christ’s triumph:

“The triumph of Jesus, as we see it outlined in the Scriptures, has always been one of the splendid inspirations of my own soul. No one can have the highest appreciation of the real Christian life and the consciousness that real Christianity brings, unless he can see the triumph of the Christ.” {7}

C.S Lovett in his commentary of Hebrews is even more pointed:

[This isn’t Copeland or Hagin who wrote this…others believe this NOT just the WOF].

“If we limit the author to saying that Jesus offered Himself in the Spirit’s power, we miss a bigger truth. The writer is contrasting the fleshly offerings of the Jewish priests with the spiritual offering of Jesus. The animal sacrifices were physical and outward, His was spiritual and unseen. The shedding of Jesus’ blood made possible His transition from the physical world into the spiritual sanctuary. But His physical blood DID NOT atone for our sins. Sin is a spiritual matter. The wages of sin is eternal separation from God. When God laid ‘on Him the iniquity of us all,’ was it on Jesus’ body or His soul? Sin cannot be laid on a body because sin is spiritual and the body physical. It was the sinless SOUL of Christ that was the real sacrifice at Calvary, NOT his body. He offered HIMSELF to God. He was IN a body at the time, but it was Jesus Himself Who bore our sins in that body. This is why the offering is so priceless.” [Emphasis is his.] {4}

At the risk of being repetitive let me quote C.I. Scofield’s definition of sin again:

“Sin may be summarized as threefold: An act, the violation of, or want of obedience to the revealed will of God; a state, absence of righteousness; a nature, enmity toward God.” {6}

Billheimer explains:

“Sin is basically a spiritual thing, a thing of the spirit, and therefore must be dealt with in the spirit realm. If Jesus paid the full penalty of sin on the cross only, that is by His physical death alone, then sin is wholly a physical act. If sin is wholly a physical act, then every man could pay for his own sin by his own death. Because sin is basically or primarily in the spirit realm and of the spirit, therefore Jesus’ work was not finished when he yielded up His physical life on the cross. It was not completed until He descended into hell, paid once and for all the eternal consequences of the aggregate sin of the world, completely despoiled Satan and all the hosts of evil, arose triumphantly from the dead, and carried His blood into the heavenly Holy of Holies and sprinkled it upon the Mercy Seat there. Hallelujah!” {8}

We repeat the precious words of Luther:

“By the wedding ring of faith he shares in the sins, death, and pains of hell which are his bride’s. As a matter of fact, he makes them his own and acts as if they were his own and as if he himself had sinned; he suffered, died, and descended into hell that he might overcome them all.” {16}

John Calvin, as he speaks of Christ’s burial:

“…that invisible and incomprehensible judgment which he underwent at the bar of God; that we might know that not only was the body of Christ given up as the price of our redemption, but that there was another greater and more excellent price — namely, that He endured in His soul the dreadful torments of a condemned man.” {8}

David C. Cooke in his study What Happened from the Cross to the Throne boldly expounds on this truth:

“The life of God was provided for spiritually dead man through his legal identification in the resurrection of Jesus Christ. It was in the name of man that Christ received this “new dynamic life” in His resurrection. When Christ was made alive in spirit it was man’s spirit legally made alive in Christ. …By His resurrection He acquired new life in the spirit which He communicates to believers. Now Eph. 2:5 connects us directly with this glorious event. (Jordan) — ‘God in His overflowing sympathy and great love breathed the same new life into us as into Christ.’ We were legally identified in Christ’s spiritual quickening! What happened legally in Christ 2,000 years ago is made our vital experience through faith. Faith is the way to transfer the legal accomplishments into personal vital experience. The new birth is a divine happening; it is explosive! The recreation of your spirit was a vital re-enactment of Christ’s resurrection.” {6}

Billheimer comments on Christ’s rebirth: “When the claims of eternal justice were fully discharged Christ was ‘justified in the spirit’ (I Tim.3:16 ASV). He then was ‘made alive in the spirit’ (I Peter 3:18 ASV). His spirit was not annihilated. It only died spiritually like any sinful human spirit. It was completely cut off and separated from God. Thus, in order to be made alive unto God and restored to fellowship with His Father, He had to be reborn — for He had become the very essence of sin. Since sin had totally alienated Him from the Father, the only way He could be restored to fellowship with the Father was through a new birth to new life. This is the meaning of Revelation 1:5: ‘Jesus Christ who is the first begotten from among the dead’ ” (margin). {9} [Reader…did you get what this man said?]

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